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BEST STOL LSA

Postby Hennie van Zyl » Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:15 am

Hi guys!

Your opinion please: The most affordable STOL in LSA cat?
Do u have one for sale?
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Re: BEST STOL LSA

Postby Vrystaat » Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:37 am

Nothing beats a Savannah,and mine is not for sale,sorry Hennie.
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Re: BEST STOL LSA

Postby PJL » Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:58 am

The Bantam is a good affordable STOL aerie but maybe not a long distance cruiser.

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Re: BEST STOL LSA

Postby John Waterson » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:37 am

Of course I would have to agree with Vrystaat. We have new Savannahs but if you are looking for second hand, you could try Willie Pieterse on Cell: 082 783 7367, he has a Savannah (Slatted version), a little slower than the VG and XL but unbeatable in short field and low n slow work. The aircraft is equipped with a dual Dynon efis panel.

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Re: BEST STOL LSA

Postby Rebelrabbit » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:46 am

Fieseler Storch made by an Hungarian called Slepcev. It´s slepcevstorch.com. But be warned the website downloads allerande soort stront oppie rekenaar. He has a WMV of his Storch taking off in nothing and flying along at 22mph. But thread on that site with caution.

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Re: BEST STOL LSA

Postby checkride » Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:08 pm

Zenith aircraft stol ch 701 2 seater or if you want a 4 seater
stol then the stol ch 801
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Re: BEST STOL LSA

Postby Burner » Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:12 pm

Ikarus C42, great STOL performance, and will still cruise close to 90 kts....
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Re: BEST STOL LSA

Postby The Blacksmith » Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:20 pm

Vrystaat wrote:Nothing beats a Savannah,and mine is not for sale,sorry Hennie.

niether is mine. :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: BEST STOL LSA

Postby Rotor kop » Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:50 pm

STOL - how about VTOL :D :D :D :D R44 \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/
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Re: BEST STOL LSA

Postby pilotandrew » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:08 am

Kitfox without a doubt. Will takeoff as short as any of the other mentioned aeries and has a cruse speed of 100kts plus, 6 hours endurance plus can carry a load. Proven Stol work horse :) :) :) :) :)
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Re: BEST STOL LSA

Postby CC » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:46 am

Ive flown a Kitfox-7 across Southern Africa as well as a bit in the Savanna with John. Im very impressed by both! The Kitfox-7 is a designed as a tube & fabric taildragger and the Savanna an all metal nose wheeler. Both are fully closed in, have strong landing landing gear and capable of carrying a large load for a 2 seater and this is very important for a "Bush Plane".

Although maybe a bit off this topic, but I do think worth mentioning is 4 seaters, there are many choices in both the NTC and certified range. However I have noticed that many of the 4 seaters are underpowered. A bush plane should have more than sufficient power up front! Ive test flown Bundu Aviations Zeneth STOL 801, it performed well however in my opinion the 801 should have a 200-230hp engine. A 4 seater certified competitor for the 801 is definitely the old pre 1962 Cessna 182, 180 or 185.

With regards to certified 4 seaters my money is on Cessna! My 1962 C172 has no rear window or seats in the rear, it is a 2 seater most of the time with loads of available capacity for luggage and equipment. There are STOL kits, engine and prop mods available for these planes. Its also good to have an engine that can run on mogas.

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Re: BEST STOL LSA

Postby John Waterson » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:34 am

In the 4 seat non certified, I think the Tundra would take a lot of beating


Tundra Specs
Power 200 hp
Max. take off weight 2550 lbs
Design load factor normal @ 2550 lbs +3.8 -1.7G
Maximum flap extended speed 90 mph (78 kts)
Maximum cruise speed - VC 140 mph (122 kts)
Never exceed speed (VNE) 160 mph (140 kts)
Take-off roll 400'
Cruise speed 75% power and 1500' 132 mph (115kts)
Stall speed with extended flaps (Vso) 30 mph (26 kts)
Stall speed (Vs) 42 mph (37 kts)
Rate of climb 1000 fpm
Service ceiling 14 000'
Endurance 5.2 hrs
Range 673 miles

Specifications
Length 25' 6"
Height 7'
Wheel span 8'
Wing span 36'
Design gross weight 2550 lbs
Useful load 1100 lbs
Fuel capacity 58 US gl
Full fuel weight 348 lbs
Design payload 722 lbs
Cabin width 44"
Cabin length 112"
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Three axis microlight.
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Take off 35m
Cruise 100mph
Stall with flaps 28mph Ph 043 7321 321
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Re: BEST STOL LSA

Postby Chernoch » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:46 am

Hi John, Could you post a picture of the Tundra ?.I do instruction on the Savanna and find it a Great Aircraft with Impecable Manners, It can handle a mean Crosswind +-15Kts. and its Shortfield and Rough Field capabilities are Awsome.
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Re: BEST STOL LSA

Postby John Waterson » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:50 am

Chernoch you are so beautiful, I will do anything for you.
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Cruise 100mph
Stall with flaps 28mph Ph 043 7321 321
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Re: BEST STOL LSA

Postby peter0 » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:53 am

Hi John
You might remember me from the T.R. safety weekend a few months ago. You took me for a flight in your savana and stayed in my self-catering.
I still have not lost my love of the Savana after going for that flip!! Maybe you could answer my question under "general chatter, hour building"
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