mr vlieg te lekker wrote:P51 mustang was also a aircraft that they had part in or built if i understand the story correct..
Yes. The P-51 was designed and built by North American. The 112/114 was by North American Rockwell Aero Commander. The business was later sold to Gulfstream who produced a few hundred. Then the twins were sold off to Shrike and the singles were produced by Commander Aircraft Company, who later hit the skids. The type certificate and assets were bought up by a group of Commander owners, but that too has now failed.
I used to own a 112 ZS-IZM, which I believe is sitting in a hangar at Wonderboom after having done a wheels-up a few years ago. The repairs were never completed and it has changed hands a few times. I miss that aerie: it was pretty special.
There is another thread here somewhere where the Commander singles were discussed in depth. Try searching for it.
The 112TCA is a great performer, but they are pretty rare - and the engines are also a pretty special item.
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