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Re: Ysterplaat Wings and Wheels: What to expect!!!!

Unread post by koos » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:02 pm

So now back to ze question: What to expect?...............sweeeeet boggerall. :(
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Re: Ysterplaat Wings and Wheels: What to expect!!!!

Unread post by koos » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:07 pm

Personally I feel a bit cheated. My 60th on Saturday, and me and my eldest an prettiest would have spent the day at YPT, she the petrol head, and me the flying lunatic of this family. Aaaaa well, so of to Morningstar instead, to enjoy the company of all my fellow hooligans and have breakfast there. :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: Ysterplaat Wings and Wheels: What to expect!!!!

Unread post by TD » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:15 pm

Be assured - scuppered above Chief of the Air Force. This planning was known to the the various Chiefs in April 2013.
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Re: Ysterplaat Wings and Wheels: What to expect!!!!

Unread post by CV580 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:30 pm

ANOTHER CONSPIRACY THEORY? - MAYBE. MAYBE NOT! STILL IT'S INTERESTING READING:

Team ALARM has been of the opinion that Nelson Mandela, for all practical purposes, died quite a while ago. For months not one person came forward to say that they saw him. We do however have reason to suspect that he is kept alive by machines, but that for all practical reasons he became brain dead several months ago. There are a several indications that his death might officially be announced very soon.

The funeral of this very popular statesman will attract dignitaries from each and every country in the world. Up to now, the home town of Nelson Mandela, near Mtahata, could not have handled a state funeral of this magnitude. In 2009 Mthata was declared a “Rapid High Impact Presidential Intervention Node” and a serious effort was started to improve the transport, roads, electricity articulation and water provision in the greater Mthata area. The new extended runway at Mthata airport was taken into service at the end of May 2013 and the upgraded roads and electricity infrastructure was completed a month ago.

Everywhere that important people and tourists might drive or move has been upgraded and repaired. Even some of the gravel roads have been extensively repaired and re-topped. Together with the new roads, bridges and electricity, there are also new petrol stations, hotels, and the Nelson Mandela museum that all looks so shiny and new and very stylish.

The Government is of course denying that any of this has anything to do with the potential funeral of Nelson Mandela. The Government insists that it is all part and parcel of the normal infrastructure and development project run by the benevolent ANC government, to the benefit of the people of South Africa. We have to admit that the effort to improve the Mthata airport has been a long running effort that has bungled along since 2008 but has failed to materialise any tangible results, due to the normal combination of corruption and ineptitude. That all changed rather drastically in 2012 when the improvement of the Mthata airport became a rapid development project.

The project's “Environmental Management Plan” (EMP) states the following very plainly in its introduction: “This is a special circumstances project and it is understood that this project is being undertaken for the provision of infrastructure for the landing of aircraft at Mthatha Airport for a special circumstance which is of national importance and is related to the former president.”

Point 2.2 on page 8 of the EMP under the heading “Motivation for use of the proposed borrowpits” the following statement is made:
“The Eastern Cape Department of Transport proposes to undertake the construction of a new runway at the Mthatha Airport in the Eastern Cape. This is a special circumstances project and it is understood that this project is being undertaken for the provision of infrastructure for the landing of aircraft at Mthatha Airport for a special circumstance which is of national importance and is related to the former president.”

On 22 November, Zuma went to inspect the improvements and repairs in the greater Mthata area and tried to gain as much political mileage as possible from it. Basically all the political elite went to see if the place looked good, and they were apparently quite impressed with the way it displayed.

Not all readers may realize that Mthata is only 31.3km from Qunu, the Eastern Cape home village of Nelson Mandela and the place where his funeral will take place. All the developments in the greater Mthata area also included Qunu and it is only a 30 minute drive on the lovely new roads to get to Qunu from Mthata.

Then on Wednesday 27 November the SAAF command cancelled the bi-annual Wheels and Wings show at the AFB Ysterplaat unilaterally and without any good and valid reason. Many people are seriously hacked off because a lot of time, effort and money has already been sunk into the event that was due to take place on 7&8 December. The unexplained cancellation of the show is busy creating a lot of PR fallout.

On Thursday 28 November the head of the SANDF cancelled all leave of all military personnel for the December period. No reason has been given.

Team ALARM also became aware of large military convoys that will be moving from Pretoria and Bloemfontein to the Qunu area shortly. We have however not been able to verify this information yet.

Should it happen that Mandela's death is announced officially, the timing could not have been more perfect for the ANC. Mandela's funeral would attract more interest than the soccer world cup, and everybody from Obama to the Pope would probably attend his funeral. Such a spectacle would go a long way in getting pressure off the ANC generated by the Nkandla scandal and the pending split of COSATU.

Additionally it would be very, very beneficial to hold his funeral on 16 December that is already known as “Day of Reconciliation” which happens to be on a Monday this year. That means there is a very handy reconciliation long weekend appearing on the calendar in 16 days that can be used to absolute maximum benefit.

The fact that Nelson Mandela the movie also appeared this last week, handily provides the cherry for the cake. The opportunity is just too good to pass up and we wonder if the Government will really let it slide by without making use of it?

Will we see an official announcement of Nelson Mandela's death in the next few days? It certainly looks like we are heading that way. We will only be sure when we hear the official announcement, but will not be surprised at all when we do.

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Photo: ANOTHER CONSPIRACY THEORY? - MAYBE. MAYBE NOT! STILL IT'S INTERESTING READING:

Team ALARM has been of the opinion that Nelson Mandela, for all practical purposes, died quite a while ago. For months not one person came forward to say that they saw him. We do however have reason to suspect that he is kept alive by machines, but that for all practical reasons he became brain dead several months ago. There are a several indications that his death might officially be announced very soon.

The funeral of this very popular statesman will attract dignitaries from each and every country in the world. Up to now, the home town of Nelson Mandela, near Mtahata, could not have handled a state funeral of this magnitude. In 2009 Mthata was declared a “Rapid High Impact Presidential Intervention Node” and a serious effort was started to improve the transport, roads, electricity articulation and water provision in the greater Mthata area. The new extended runway at Mthata airport was taken into service at the end of May 2013 and the upgraded roads and electricity infrastructure was completed a month ago.

Everywhere that important people and tourists might drive or move has been upgraded and repaired. Even some of the gravel roads have been extensively repaired and re-topped. Together with the new roads, bridges and electricity, there are also new petrol stations, hotels, and the Nelson Mandela museum that all looks so shiny and new and very stylish.

The Government is of course denying that any of this has anything to do with the potential funeral of Nelson Mandela. The Government insists that it is all part and parcel of the normal infrastructure and development project run by the benevolent ANC government, to the benefit of the people of South Africa. We have to admit that the effort to improve the Mthata airport has been a long running effort that has bungled along since 2008 but has failed to materialise any tangible results, due to the normal combination of corruption and ineptitude. That all changed rather drastically in 2012 when the improvement of the Mthata airport became a rapid development project.

The project's “Environmental Management Plan” (EMP) states the following very plainly in its introduction: “This is a special circumstances project and it is understood that this project is being undertaken for the provision of infrastructure for the landing of aircraft at Mthatha Airport for a special circumstance which is of national importance and is related to the former president.”

Point 2.2 on page 8 of the EMP under the heading “Motivation for use of the proposed borrowpits” the following statement is made:
“The Eastern Cape Department of Transport proposes to undertake the construction of a new runway at the Mthatha Airport in the Eastern Cape. This is a special circumstances project and it is understood that this project is being undertaken for the provision of infrastructure for the landing of aircraft at Mthatha Airport for a special circumstance which is of national importance and is related to the former president.”

On 22 November, Zuma went to inspect the improvements and repairs in the greater Mthata area and tried to gain as much political mileage as possible from it. Basically all the political elite went to see if the place looked good, and they were apparently quite impressed with the way it displayed.

Not all readers may realize that Mthata is only 31.3km from Qunu, the Eastern Cape home village of Nelson Mandela and the place where his funeral will take place. All the developments in the greater Mthata area also included Qunu and it is only a 30 minute drive on the lovely new roads to get to Qunu from Mthata.

Then on Wednesday 27 November the SAAF command cancelled the bi-annual Wheels and Wings show at the AFB Ysterplaat unilaterally and without any good and valid reason. Many people are seriously hacked off because a lot of time, effort and money has already been sunk into the event that was due to take place on 7&8 December. The unexplained cancellation of the show is busy creating a lot of PR fallout.

On Thursday 28 November the head of the SANDF cancelled all leave of all military personnel for the December period. No reason has been given.

Team ALARM also became aware of large military convoys that will be moving from Pretoria and Bloemfontein to the Qunu area shortly. We have however not been able to verify this information yet.

Should it happen that Mandela's death is announced officially, the timing could not have been more perfect for the ANC. Mandela's funeral would attract more interest than the soccer world cup, and everybody from Obama to the Pope would probably attend his funeral. Such a spectacle would go a long way in getting pressure off the ANC generated by the Nkandla scandal and the pending split of COSATU.

Additionally it would be very, very beneficial to hold his funeral on 16 December that is already known as “Day of Reconciliation” which happens to be on a Monday this year. That means there is a very handy reconciliation long weekend appearing on the calendar in 16 days that can be used to absolute maximum benefit.

The fact that Nelson Mandela the movie also appeared this last week, handily provides the cherry for the cake. The opportunity is just too good to pass up and we wonder if the Government will really let it slide by without making use of it?

Will we see an official announcement of Nelson Mandela's death in the next few days? It certainly looks like we are heading that way. We will only be sure when we hear the official announcement, but will not be surprised at all when we do.

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Re: Ysterplaat Wings and Wheels: What to expect!!!!

Unread post by CV580 » Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:35 pm

Sorry mods can you delete the double up?
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Re: Ysterplaat Wings and Wheels: What to expect!!!!

Unread post by dilligaf » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:18 pm

CV580 wrote:Sorry mods can you delete the double up?
You can edit your posts.......
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Unread post by Deanw » Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:19 pm

Just what has that to so with W&W? Take it somewhere else. [-X
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Re: Ysterplaat Wings and Wheels: What to expect!!!!

Unread post by Darren » Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:34 am

It's also wrong. The military convoys seen were the units involved in Exercise Seboka, who make that journey every year. The cancellation of leave for December is likely because of the deteriorating situation in the CAR in which the SANDF may be asked to get involved. Also, not all personnel leave has been cancelled.

Nobody denies that Umtata airport was upgraded for a future Mandela funeral, but that has been going on for quite some time and was sped up because of his deteriorating condition last year. Nothing sinister. I also do not believe he is dead, as I'm told the members of his medical team are honourable people, who would go public if they were being used in that way, and in any case his condition is not dissimilar to what happened before to a person I knew. So I don't find the reports on his status difficult to believe.

But this is all off-topic, I posted it only to correct what I saw as clear errors. If anyone wants to discuss it rather follow-up via PM please.
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Re: Ysterplaat Wings and Wheels: What to expect!!!!

Unread post by richard C » Thu Dec 05, 2013 10:06 am

I was at Umthatha airport yesterday. The new terminal building has been frozen at first lift with exposed rebars since last year. They will have to keep Mr. Mandela on machines for another couple of years if they want to use that facility.
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Re: Ysterplaat Wings and Wheels: What to expect!!!!

Unread post by pwnel » Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:40 am

Well, maybe this makes more sense now.
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Re: Ysterplaat Wings and Wheels: What to expect!!!!

Unread post by Euro Flyer » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:17 am

pwnel wrote:Well, maybe this makes more sense now.
Funeral on 16/12 perhaps.

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Re: Ysterplaat Wings and Wheels: What to expect!!!!

Unread post by pwnel » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:54 am

[quote="Euro Flyer"][quote="pwnel"]Well, maybe this makes more sense now.[/quote]
Funeral on 16/12 perhaps.

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From what I understand, is that the funeral was always planned to be T+10 to T+12 to allow everyone enough time to fly in. Which makes it the 16th. Just as CV580 speculated above. I'm sad, but the story above is so utterly chilling in its prediction that one side of me can't stop thinking they pulled the plug at the exact scripted hour.
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Re: Ysterplaat Wings and Wheels: What to expect!!!!

Unread post by gear up » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:20 am

Chilling post from CV580, almost unbelievable how spot on #-o
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Re: Ysterplaat Wings and Wheels: What to expect!!!!

Unread post by Athol Terence » Fri Dec 06, 2013 8:14 am

In view of Nelson's passing last night this posting has sent chills up my spine. How accurate this report has been and it was written beofre Nelson passed on! I have to agree that Nelson has probably been clinically dead for some months, but has been kept alive by machines. What excellent timing to take the heat off Zumaville?

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Re: Ysterplaat Wings and Wheels: What to expect!!!!

Unread post by vanjast3 » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:06 am

Desperate tactics, by a desperate cANCer..
Can't wait for the DA or Noseweek to expose the whole shenanigans .. just in time for the elections.
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