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Re: Ethiopian warbirds

Unread post by vintageflyer » Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:28 pm

Here's one of them, before I damaged her.
Thanks to Bruce Perkins for the beautiful photos.
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Re: Ethiopian warbirds

Unread post by 117 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:59 am

Bearcat wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:12 pm
117 wrote:
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Just a point if order .. none of the flying T-28's in SA are ex EAF.. there is one restored EAF example in the W Cape but as far as I know has never flown
All good, thanks for the correction.
The one in WC, is that the one based at FAWC?
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Re: Ethiopian warbirds

Unread post by Bearcat » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:08 am

117 wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:59 am
Bearcat wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:12 pm
117 wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:16 pm
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Just a point if order .. none of the flying T-28's in SA are ex EAF.. there is one restored EAF example in the W Cape but as far as I know has never flown
All good, thanks for the correction.
The one in WC, is that the one based at FAWC?
Last pic I saw it was based at an airfield on the W Coast
Unlike the other T-28'S in SA it is an A model with the smaller engine
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Re: Ethiopian warbirds

Unread post by 117 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:12 am

[insert thumbs up emotie] Bc
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Re: Ethiopian warbirds

Unread post by Deanw » Wed Feb 06, 2019 9:13 am

Bearcat wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:08 am
Last pic I saw it was based at an airfield on the W Coast
Unlike the other T-28'S in SA it is an A model with the smaller engine
This one?
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Re: Ethiopian warbirds

Unread post by longpete » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:16 am

No, this one:
Trojan1.jpg
It was at the Delta 200 airstrip. Got as far as being started , and taxiing, but never flew.
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Re: Ethiopian warbirds

Unread post by longpete » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:23 am

Proof of start...
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Re: Ethiopian warbirds

Unread post by Whirly » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:27 am

Proof? :shock: Looks like a typical Cape veld fire! :lol: :lol:

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Re: Ethiopian warbirds

Unread post by Jolley Roger » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:12 pm

flysouth wrote:
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I was tipped off to the raid the cops did on the premises where these aircraft were stored, near Northgate Mall, Randburg.

I took a bunch of pics of the Keystone Cops at work with the aircraft and armamaments!

http://www.flysouth.co.za/gallery_selebi_raid/
Wonder what happened to those F-86 fuselages, wouldn't mind getting my hands on one of those!
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Re: Ethiopian warbirds

Unread post by flysouth » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:21 pm

Jolley Roger wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:12 pm
flysouth wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:46 pm
I was tipped off to the raid the cops did on the premises where these aircraft were stored, near Northgate Mall, Randburg.

I took a bunch of pics of the Keystone Cops at work with the aircraft and armamaments!

http://www.flysouth.co.za/gallery_selebi_raid/
Wonder what happened to those F-86 fuselages, wouldn't mind getting my hands on one of those!
I never did discover in detail what finally transpired but I do know that for a long while after this raid the owner of these aircraft,John Sayers had a long legal battle over a) illegally importing "weapons of war" and b) offences under the Firearms Act of 2000.(errata - the FCA was not in force in 2001 only being finally implemented in 2004. The alleged offences therefore were probably related to the previous act, the Arms and Ammunition Act of 1969)

All of this was absolute nonsense I think as the necessary import and other permits had been obtained so the raid and the aftermath was simply political grandstanding by the corrupt and ineffectual Selibi and SAPS!
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Re: Ethiopian warbirds

Unread post by Deanw » Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:38 pm

longpete wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:16 am
No, this one:
Trojan1.jpg

It was at the Delta 200 airstrip. Got as far as being started , and taxiing, but never flew.
Then it must be the same one ... I took that photo at Delta 200 (YPT Aerospace).
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Re: Ethiopian warbirds

Unread post by lex » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:22 pm

I Saw fairy Firefly's at Duxford a few years back being unloaded from crates !!
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Re: Ethiopian warbirds

Unread post by longpete » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:32 pm

Deanw wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:38 pm
longpete wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:16 am
No, this one:
Trojan1.jpg

It was at the Delta 200 airstrip. Got as far as being started , and taxiing, but never flew.
Then it must be the same one ... I took that photo at Delta 200 (YPT Aerospace).
Hi Dean!

I spend several days a month at the D200 airfield(skydiving and/or flying), and have done so since early 2000.

As far as I can recall, when the hangar and T28 package arrived from Lanseria area, there were several fuselages/wings in various states of repair.
Some still had faded, I'm guessing EAF, paint and markings, some were partially stripped, and one or two as your example.

I may be wrong (halfzeimers ;) ) but I seem to remember that a set of wings, and one fuselage, were already painted that red/white.
I believe the previous owner up Lanseria way had apparently already got that one rebuild 50% plus along before selling to the YPT guy, Andrew Baldwin.
YPT obviously first tackled/continued with that one.

It was interesting to see the progress achieved, but the initial steady pace later slowed, and then only continued in fits and starts.
As mentioned, the A/C got as far as taxiing, but not flying.
The rebuild project ground to a complete halt several years back.
It would now appear everything is being packed into containers in preparation for the next stage of the journey.

There are a few threads on AvCom giving more details and pics. of the historical progress.
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Re: Ethiopian warbirds

Unread post by Sir Rosis » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:04 pm

In Umhlanga Rocks, there is a Spar called Park Square. Hanging above the entrance is one of the SAAB Safir's . I am sure it comes out of the batch.
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Re: Ethiopian warbirds

Unread post by Deanw » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:04 pm

Thanks longpete. 8)
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