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Cessna 150

Unread post by Bugs » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:08 pm

Is it possible to convert a standard Cessna 150 to an aerobatic model?
What is the main differences between a standard 150 and the aerobatic version?
Can you add stiffeners inside the fuselarge and stronger struts?
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Re: Cessna 150

Unread post by rare bird » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:39 am

do you want to do the "full ambit" of aerobatics? or is this just to do spin recovery training? the 150 Aerobat had a few more features - I think by the time you are finished your mods & getting them approved, you might just do better buying a half share in a Yak, or something else?
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Re: Cessna 150

Unread post by lawotschkin » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:44 am

.. sounds tricky - the aerobats have structural enforcement & more rivets - as it’s a type certified aircraft you would have to find an STC and get it approved or go through a mod approval with CAA ..
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Re: Cessna 150

Unread post by Walter105 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:07 am

I think it would cost more than to just buy an Aerobat.
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Re: Cessna 150

Unread post by Spoke Eagle » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:17 pm

Check the aerobat if you go that way. One difference is extra stringers in the fuselage. Some aerobats developed cracks in them which basically reduced them to normal 150's.
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Re: Cessna 150

Unread post by jimdavis » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:01 pm

Bugs, I suspect this is a lot bigger project than it at first appears. There is a hell of a lot more to it than strengthening wings and attachments. Things like battery mountings are bound to be different and you can be sure that seats and harness mountings will be beefed up and countless other things.

It would be very interesting to see a list of all the differences - is such a thing even available?

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Re: Cessna 150

Unread post by Volo » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:57 pm

Trying to add stuff to a Cessna 150 to turn it into an aerobat is like putting lipstick on Gorilla - aint going to do much for it.😆
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Re: Cessna 150

Unread post by Wayne Boonzaier » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:57 pm

jimdavis wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:01 pm
Bugs, I suspect this is a lot bigger project than it at first appears. There is a hell of a lot more to it than strengthening wings and attachments. Things like battery mountings are bound to be different and you can be sure that seats and harness mountings will be beefed up and countless other things.

It would be very interesting to see a list of all the differences - is such a thing even available?

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Here is a 1960 movie about the aerobat where a representative from cessna mentions some of the modifications



As far as I can remember

Struts are from a 182
some of the skins are thicker
The engine mount is stronger
there are reinforced bulkheads where the struts attach to the fuselage
And quiet a number more.

Would cost an absolute fortune to modify not worth it at all, not to mention the CAA nightmare of getting it approved

just purchase an aerobat,

Jim is quiet right
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Re: Cessna 150

Unread post by Bugs » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:09 pm

Thank to everyones input. Greatly appreciated.
I do know of two aerobats available.
One is std and the other has the 150 hp engine modification.
I like the 150/150 one.
If this aircraft had the Texas taildragger conversion then it would be the ideal ship.
I am looking for a multi purpose aircraft that can do gentleman aerobatics for just pure fun flying and something that I can take my wife in and the two Jack Russels in the back without taking ages to get there. Hop in from PE to Plett or Cape st Francis for the day. Also when life gets to hectic, go to GF and just fly the odd loop etc.
I looked at the Citerbria, but my wife hates tandem seaters just as much as she hates two door coupe cars.
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Re: Cessna 150

Unread post by jimdavis » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:35 pm

Bugs wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:09 pm
Thank to everyones input. Greatly appreciated.
I do know of two aerobats available.
One is std and the other has the 150 hp engine modification.
I like the 150/150 one.
If this aircraft had the Texas taildragger conversion then it would be the ideal ship.
I am looking for a multi purpose aircraft that can do gentleman aerobatics for just pure fun flying and something that I can take my wife in and the two Jack Russels in the back without taking ages to get there. Hop in from PE to Plett or Cape st Francis for the day. Also when life gets to hectic, go to GF and just fly the odd loop etc.
I looked at the Citerbria, but my wife hates tandem seaters just as much as she hates two door coupe cars.
It might be simpler to change your wife, Bugsy. :lol:

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Re: Cessna 150

Unread post by Bugs » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:38 pm

jimdavis wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:35 pm
Bugs wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:09 pm
Thank to everyones input. Greatly appreciated.
I do know of two aerobats available.
One is std and the other has the 150 hp engine modification.
I like the 150/150 one.
If this aircraft had the Texas taildragger conversion then it would be the ideal ship.
I am looking for a multi purpose aircraft that can do gentleman aerobatics for just pure fun flying and something that I can take my wife in and the two Jack Russels in the back without taking ages to get there. Hop in from PE to Plett or Cape st Francis for the day. Also when life gets to hectic, go to GF and just fly the odd loop etc.
I looked at the Citerbria, but my wife hates tandem seaters just as much as she hates two door coupe cars.
It might be simpler to change your wife, Bugsy. :lol:

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Re: Cessna 150

Unread post by Wayne Boonzaier » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:46 am

A 160 HP Citabria is a wonderful machine , aerobatic + 1100 ft / min climb 2 up in JHB.

The extra HP on the 150 aerobat is very disappointing and does not lead to blistering performance as one would expect , 15 MPH faster in the cruise and 300 fpm better climb performance but worst of all it is no longer certified for spins or aerobatics , and without tip tanks the range becomes severely limited , although ZS- IOP which was a 150 HP aerobat was used for almost a decade in competition aerobatics by defence flying club without incident until the CAA twigged on to the fact that its aerobatic certification was no more since the engine upgrade as a result of a student running out of fuel ( because the POH fuel performance graphs had not been modified to reflect the higher fuel burn)
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Re: Cessna 150

Unread post by Bugs » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:13 pm

But the Citerbria is still tandem seat.
Is there any other mounts in SA that offer multi functions of being aerobatic, cross country range, side by side seating in an enclosed cockpit.
The only examples I can think of are YAK 18T, Beagle Pup and Beech 18.
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Re: Cessna 150

Unread post by GL » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:19 pm

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Re: Cessna 150

Unread post by Bugs » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:30 pm

GL wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:19 pm
RV 6, 7, and 14.
IINM Rans S6.
Beech 33.
RV's are great but you cannot get one at an affordable price around half a million mark.
Rans is a bit tight and no place for the dogs.
Are there any aerobatic Beech 33 's in SA?
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