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Pilatus Civil Aircraft

Unread post by Millibar » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:13 pm

Watching a PC12 taking off today I had the thought that the PC6, PC12 and now the PC24 were (are) all game changers and very much unmatched by much bigger manufacturers.

Why is it that Pilatus gets it right so often to produce aircraft that basically creates a new market segment and why is it that they get to keep these markets to themself?

As far as I know, nothing compared to the PC6. The PC12 has been in production for decades and is only now (possibly) being threatened by the Denali. The PC24 is also allowed to have its market to itself with none of the other manufacturers having anything similar in development or in production.

Pilatus is a small company yet it manages to put brilliant aircraft on the market to which the big boys seems to have no answer.
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Re: Pilatus Civil Aircraft

Unread post by lawotschkin » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:08 pm

.. on top of that it is my understanding that the PC24 is the only larger aviation project I have ever seen that was delivered within the promised timelines .. certification etc
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Re: Pilatus Civil Aircraft

Unread post by richard C » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:06 pm

Millibar wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:13 pm
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Why is it that Pilatus gets it right so often to produce aircraft that basically creates a new market segment and why is it that they get to keep these markets to themself?

As far as I know, nothing compared to the PC6. The PC12 has been in production for decades and is only now (possibly) being threatened by the Denali.....
Don't think the Denali even officially exists yet.
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Re: Pilatus Civil Aircraft

Unread post by BD » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:50 pm

That's the Swiss for you =D> =D> =D>
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Re: Pilatus Civil Aircraft

Unread post by Fransw » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:52 pm

lawotschkin wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:08 pm
.. on top of that it is my understanding that the PC24 is the only larger aviation project I have ever seen that was delivered within the promised timelines .. certification etc
The Swiss are always on time. ALWAYS! :shock:

Love the PC6 and 12! :smt007
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Re: Pilatus Civil Aircraft

Unread post by Bearcat » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:34 pm

richard C wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:06 pm
Millibar wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:13 pm
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Why is it that Pilatus gets it right so often to produce aircraft that basically creates a new market segment and why is it that they get to keep these markets to themself?

As far as I know, nothing compared to the PC6. The PC12 has been in production for decades and is only now (possibly) being threatened by the Denali.....
Don't think the Denali even officially exists yet.
For interest .. Mount Denali is the tallest mountain in the USA .. so for sure taking aim at mount Pilatus in Switzerland :)
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Re: Pilatus Civil Aircraft

Unread post by DonR » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:40 am

Millibar wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:13 pm
Watching a PC12 taking off today I had the thought that the PC6, PC12 and now the PC24 were (are) all game changers and very much unmatched by much bigger manufacturers.

Why is it that Pilatus gets it right so often to produce aircraft that basically creates a new market segment and why is it that they get to keep these markets to themself?

As far as I know, nothing compared to the PC6. The PC12 has been in production for decades and is only now (possibly) being threatened by the Denali. The PC24 is also allowed to have its market to itself with none of the other manufacturers having anything similar in development or in production.

Pilatus is a small company yet it manages to put brilliant aircraft on the market to which the big boys seems to have no answer.
They are discontinuing PC6 production shortly (or may have already). A 60 year production run is not too shabby.

https://www.pilatus-aircraft.com/en/new ... orter-pc-6
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Re: Pilatus Civil Aircraft

Unread post by KZNChris » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:25 pm

DonR wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:40 am
They are discontinuing PC6 production shortly (or may have already). A 60 year production run is not too shabby.
Any idea what this will do to the price of currently existing aircraft
One wonders if the "scrap" will now located , hauled out and "re-built" -- probably makes economic sense

The demand is still there -- the supply is NOT !
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Re: Pilatus Civil Aircraft

Unread post by Christopher » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:57 pm

<One wonders if the "scrap" will now located , hauled out and "re-built">

They have already been doing just this, for years, here in The States! :)
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Re: Pilatus Civil Aircraft

Unread post by bladerunner » Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:28 pm

KZNChris wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:25 pm
DonR wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:40 am
They are discontinuing PC6 production shortly (or may have already). A 60 year production run is not too shabby.
Any idea what this will do to the price of currently existing aircraft
One wonders if the "scrap" will now located , hauled out and "re-built" -- probably makes economic sense

The demand is still there -- the supply is NOT !
They started building the mighty Twotter again...
Just a thought...
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Re: Pilatus Civil Aircraft

Unread post by KZNChris » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:34 pm

bladerunner wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:28 pm
KZNChris wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:25 pm
DonR wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:40 am
They are discontinuing PC6 production shortly (or may have already). A 60 year production run is not too shabby.
Any idea what this will do to the price of currently existing aircraft
One wonders if the "scrap" will now located , hauled out and "re-built" -- probably makes economic sense

The demand is still there -- the supply is NOT !
They started building the mighty Twotter again...
Just a thought...
Oh WOW -- that is a real old classic

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