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CPL Renenwal Question

Unread post by robind » Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:32 am

Hi,

What is the procedure if CPL renewal lapses by a few months but less than a year? Does the below apply only:
61.05.7
(a) in the case of a holder of a CPL where the maintenance of competency has lapsed by not more than 36 months, the licence holder shall be required to—
(i)undergo sufficient ground and flight training at an approved ATO to reach the standard required for the revalidation check of a CPL(A), and meet the recency requirements to act as PIC; and
(ii)pass a revalidation check in the same category of aircraft;
After initial COM test can one automatically re-validate your CPL by re-validating your IF rating every year in a sim or should the IF re-validation take place one year in a sim and the next one year in an actual aircraft?
61.11.7
(4) The revalidation check for an IR revalidates the maintenance of competency of a licence endorsed with an IR for a period of 12 months, provided that the aircraft or FSTD meets the requirements for the maintenance of competency of that licence.
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Re: CPL Renenwal Question

Unread post by Tex » Thu Mar 14, 2019 9:54 am

If your license has lapsed and you have not completed more than 3 hours PIC in the last 6 months you must complete a period of training at an ATO. Period of training isnt defined in the regulation so it could include a simulator session and briefing, so you are competent to test.

No examinations. You can renew on the simulator every year but just bear in mind it would revalidate a CPL by 12 months only. If you wanted to revalidate a CPL for 24 months you would need to complete a CPL skills test in an aircraft and you could do the IF section on a simulator ( or do both on the aircraft which ever suits your finances)
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Re: CPL Renenwal Question

Unread post by Multirotordronepilot » Thu Mar 14, 2019 10:09 am

Yes Robin as the CAR's you have quoted imply that there is no need for stress. A simple re validation is required, you only need complete additional training after 24 months from expiry date or to re write air law subject and complete an initial test if you are outside of the 36 month period. So no additional training or re-writing need if you act soon.

With regards to your second question : As long as the simulator is a FNPT2 you can revalidate your CPL/IR and there are no limitations other than in the case of the IR one relavidaion per 24 months must be on a complex twin type.

Edit: take the above mentioned 3hrs as PIC or 6hrs as Co into consideration. I omitted that detail, 2nd added the sub regulations which apply.

Period of validity of a CPL(A)

61.05.6 A CPL(A) issued is valid for a period of 10 years provided that—
(a)
currency fees are paid in terms of regulation 61.01.16;
(b)
competency is maintained in terms of regulation 61.05.7;
(c)
annually, together with the fee referred to in paragraph (a), the completed application form as prescribed in regulation 61.05.2 (2) is submitted including certified copies of the last 3 pages of the logbook containing entries indicating a record of flight times, an annual summary indicating flight time per category, class, type and total time, as well as certified copies of any endorsements entered into the logbook in the preceding 12 months.

Maintenance of competency for a CPL(A)
61.05.7 (1) A CPL(A) shall undergo a revalidation check within 12 months from the date of initial issue and thereafter within a period of 24 months calculated from—
(a) the date of reissue; or
(b) the beginning of the month following the date of—
(i) expiry of the maintenance of competency if such maintenance of competency is revalidated within 90 days immediately prior to expiry; or
(ii) revalidation of such maintenance of competency if revalidated prior to the period referred to in subparagraph (i).

(2) The holder of a CPL(A) who has not maintained competency by passing a revalidation check or an initial licence skills test in the same category of aircraft within the 24 months following the issue or revalidation of such licence shall comply with the following requirements—
(a) in the case of a holder of a CPL where the maintenance of competency has lapsed by not more than 36 months, the licence holder shall be required to—
(i) undergo sufficient ground and flight training at an approved ATO to reach the standard required for the revalidation check of a CPL(A), and meet the recency requirements to act as PIC; and
(ii) pass a revalidation check in the same category of aircraft;
(b) in the case of a holder of a CPL where the maintenance of competency has lapsed by more than 36 months, the licence holder shall be required to—
(i) rewrite the Air Law examination;
(ii) undergo sufficient ground and flight training at an approved ATO to reach the standard required for the revalidation check of a CPL(A), and meet the recency requirements to act as PIC; and
(iii) pass an initial licence skills test in the same category of aircraft;

[Para. (b) substituted by r. 5 (a) of GNR.534 of 30 July 2013.]
(c). . . . . .
[Para. (c) deleted by r. 5 (a) of GNR.534 of 30 July 2013.]
(4) The holder of a CPL (Aeroplane) who has not flown a minimum of 3 hours as either PIC or PICUS or 6 hours as co-pilot in the 6 months preceding a revalidation check, shall undergo sufficient ground and flight training at an approved ATO to reach the standard required for the revalidation check of a CPL (Aeroplane), and meet the recency requirements to act as PIC.
[Sub-r. (4) deleted by r. 16 (a) and added by r. 16 (b) of GNR.532 of 30 July 2013.]
(5) The revalidation check must be undertaken in an aeroplane with a variable pitch propeller or turbojet engine.
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