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Landing in a Pan

Unread post by TikkaT3 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:48 am

Hi All,

It’s always been a dream of mine to land an aircraft on a pan and camp under the wing for the night.

Does anyone have any leads of where I can do that in my 182? Anywhere in SA. I’ve heard of Hakskeenpan near upington?

Any info will help, please PM if you do not wish to post it here.
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Re: Landing in a Pan

Unread post by jimdavis » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:02 am

CAREFUL! Tikka. There are pans and pans - and it requires local knowledge to determine whether your selected one is beautifully hard or whether you will sink through the crust.

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Re: Landing in a Pan

Unread post by TikkaT3 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:26 am

jimdavis wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:02 am
CAREFUL! Tikka. There are pans and pans - and it requires local knowledge to determine whether your selected one is beautifully hard or whether you will sink through the crust.

jim
I hear you Jim!

I’ve seen beautiful pics of guys in pans and hoping someone can shed some light.

I’m open to a small track in a remote spot anywhere as well if I can’t find a salt pan.
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Re: Landing in a Pan

Unread post by IKTAV » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:54 am

Used to land our C210 on a pan near a place called Sekoma in Botswana. (Up the road between Jwaneng and Ghanzi.)
The company I freelanced for built a school there.
Like Jim says, you need to find someone with local knowledge, otherwise your landing might come with a surprise. :lol:
The one I flew into had a crust about an inch deep with a damp underlie. Completely unusable in the rainy season but it felt like landing on a cushion when it dried out. Takeoff distance was nowhere near to the POH figures obviously, but surface length wasn’t a problem.
Must admit, it was great fun. All that was missing was a tent and a braai. :lol:
Just remember to check with your insurance company beforehand. Ours kindly allowed it.
Don’t forget to let us know if you find one. Might be tempted to go camping again :lol:
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Re: Landing in a Pan

Unread post by Rooster » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:28 am

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I think you have my number.
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Re: Landing in a Pan

Unread post by Rooster » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:35 am

Gariep on the way to the pan
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Re: Landing in a Pan

Unread post by Volo » Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:04 pm

Tikka - Here is one you could try .
I landed at the Pan below some years ago in a party of about 40 other aircraft and it was smooth as silk .
the exact location is as follows :-
26 56 25.28 south
020 19 47.31 east .

The pan in question is just south of the well known Hakseenpan where they are due stage a world landspeed record .

The pan is about 10 km x 10 km , however the portion we used is north of a road dividing the pan and about 2.5 km. long and near its eastern edge .
Two things to be aware of :-
1. Winter is likely to be the only time you can be relatively sure the surface is hard .
2. Be careful of landing in the middle of any pan as that is where the surface might not be stable and secondly and as important it is very difficult to judge your height above the pan , particularly @ midday . How do I know about the judgement issue - on a low level pass over the pan we inadvertently bounced off it - had no idea we were so close to the surface .
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Re: Landing in a Pan

Unread post by lawotschkin » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:47 pm

for pans I do three approaches - best with 2 people in the cockpit ..

1.) very low & slow fly by to inspect surface and a safe distance
2.) one fast touch down with go around - let the mains hit the ground and immediately apply full power and go around .. check how the surface feels and if wheels are wet (there might be mud and water under a solid crust)
3.) if all feels right - then land exactly on the touch down marks you created under 2

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Re: Landing in a Pan

Unread post by GL » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:50 pm

All good advice.
You should have entered the Race for Rhinos when it was held at Kubu Island.
Many of the pans are salty - you should wash you plane down properly afterwards.
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Re: Landing in a Pan

Unread post by Induna » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:04 pm


The pan in question is just south of the well known Hakseenpan where they are due stage a world landspeed record .

You might be referring to Verneukpan?
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Re: Landing in a Pan

Unread post by C Africa » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:13 pm

Induna wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:04 pm

The pan in question is just south of the well known Hakseenpan where they are due stage a world landspeed record .

You might be referring to Verneukpan?
Nope, the event is definitely at Hakskeenpan. Blue Bird in the 60's was at Verneuk.


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Re: Landing in a Pan

Unread post by Learjet » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:07 pm

Some pics of our Morningstar Flying Club fly-always to Hakskeen Pan, Koo Pan and Karoo Pan over the past couple of years. Always lots of fun!
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Re: Landing in a Pan

Unread post by CWS » Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:59 am

Induna wrote:
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The pan in question is just south of the well known Hakseenpan where they are due stage a world landspeed record .

You might be referring to Verneukpan?
It’s Koppieskraal Pan
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Re: Landing in a Pan

Unread post by Goose1 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:09 pm

Big fun
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Re: Landing in a Pan

Unread post by flypiper » Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:39 am

Hi Guys ,

Nice photos looks just toooo tempting :D
Flying!!!

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