Piet Le Roux wrote:I know that SAMAA have been negotiating for years to have the maximum flying height for models lifted and gazetted and I appreciate their efforts. I presume that aerobatic and gliding competitions can still be held legally thru an agreement with the Aero Club whom controls all aero sports. The problem is with the insurance that SAMAA provide for their members. SAMAA laid down the rules by excluding members that uses FCC (200mW) 2.4 GHz radios from their insurance cover because it’s against ICASA regulations at present, irrespective of the fact that they pose no safety risk. I appreciate their standpoint: they can not sanction illegal practices.
Pattern Aerobatics, for example, needs at least 260 meters (850 feet) take into account pilot error and you need at least 300 meters (984 feet). So in the same contexts SAMAA would have to withdraw insurance cover for all pilots competing in or practicing for these sports until the changes have been gazetted.
yeah - well said piet.
I think Piet has stated what we all know but have been pussy footing around. Anyway, it is said and in the same breath a two meter glider is likely to require the same "box" to fly in not to mention Large Scale and Jet whether for competition or not.
It is not JUST about increasing the box. For those that attended the Masters competition in Bloem at CRF in October last year they might remember the Cell C Harvard formation that came over at about 300ft and had me diving for the ground halfway through a stall turn.
My feeling is that no matter WHAT is gazetted and ruled and written down in small print it is up to us to stay out of the way of full size aircraft. Until SAMAA can implement an FAD - Danger Area, FAR - Restricted Area or FAP - Prohibited Area to be legislated for each and every RC club we will never have our "own" space. In the event of the above many RC clubs would be closed down as they are already operating within someone else's controlled airspace.
The 400ft limit is because full size aircraft can operate down to 500ft outside built up areas (applies to most clubs) and there is little to no chance of them changing rules like that to suite a couple of hobbyists. In the vicinity of an airfield the 500ft doesn't apply and the concept of 'built up' is rather vague and if your club is within another controlled area you don't even have access to the 400ft no matter what SAMAA tells you.
91.06.32 (1) Except when necessary for taking off or landing, or except with prior written approval of the Commissioner, no aircraft –
shall be flown over built-up areas or over an open-air assembly of persons at a height less than 1 000 feet above the highest obstacle, within a radius of 2 000 feet from the aircraft;
when flown elsewhere than specified in paragraph (a), shall be flown at a height less than 500 feet above the ground or water, unless the flight can be made without hazard or nuisance to persons or property on the ground or water; and