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Unread post by photon » Wed May 15, 2019 7:20 pm

View of the 262 Sqn's Catalinas at the Congella basin in Durban

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Unread post by richard C » Thu May 16, 2019 9:16 am

What a photo !!!

Where would the Congella Basin be in relation to Durban Harbour today ?
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Unread post by kwest » Thu May 16, 2019 9:48 am

You can see the drydock which is still functional, as well as the long warehouse South of which are the 2 basins used as the flying boat base.

My late father was with the Crash Boats (sea rescue) in Durban circa 1943, initially on a base at Salisbury Island (which is now no longer an Island but now where Bayhead wharf is. The Boats were later moved to Congella basin to share facilities with the Flying boats. (Crashboats were infact an airforce unit)
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Unread post by richard C » Thu May 16, 2019 9:51 am

Many thanks Kwest !!!!
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Unread post by photon » Sun May 26, 2019 6:50 pm

Vickers Supermarine Spitfire F Mk22 serial "PK350" , fuselage code "JM-M"
This Spifire was owned by the late Jack Malloch and restored to flying condition during the period mid 1977 to early 1980.
The restoration was done by engineers of Air Trans Africa/ Affretair in Harare.
The Spit's Rolls-Royce Griffon 61 engine was overhauled by the SAAF.
The aircraft was painted in her original 1945 RAF day-fighter camouflage scheme, the initials of Jack Malloch "JM-M" are displayed on the sides of the fuselage.
Jack Malloch got killed in a crash with the Spitfire on 26 March 1982.
The scans were made from copies of the original positives; they were donated to the Museum Society by Group Captain Bill Sykes.
The photo credit goes to an unknown AFZ photographer.

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Unread post by photon » Sun May 26, 2019 6:52 pm

A few more shots of Vickers Supermarine Spitfire F Mk22 "PK350"

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Unread post by Flyman » Sun May 26, 2019 9:20 pm

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Flyman wrote:
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What a very interesting thread. The photos like all your work are brilliant. =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>
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Unread post by Christopher » Tue May 28, 2019 11:47 pm

Those are really gorgeous photos of the Malloch Spitfire! I had not known that it was such a late model aircraft...what a loss! (Of both aircraft <and> pilot, of course)
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Unread post by richard C » Wed May 29, 2019 8:22 am

Does anybody have the details of the crash ? I don't remember anything about this one.

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Unread post by Ray W » Wed May 29, 2019 8:55 am

richard C wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 8:22 am
Does anybody have the details of the crash ? I don't remember anything about this one.

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From what I remember, and I'm very open to correction, he was flying a photographic flight and flew into some clouds and never re-appeared in one piece. Cumulogranite ate him I believe
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Ray W wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 8:55 am
richard C wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 8:22 am
Does anybody have the details of the crash ? I don't remember anything about this one.

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From what I remember, and I'm very open to correction, he was flying a photographic flight and flew into some clouds and never re-appeared in one piece. Cumulogranite ate him I believe
That is indeed what happened.
The Spitfire,with Capt.Jack Malloch flying,made its final flight in the afternoon of 26 March 1982.
The plane was returning to base after completing an air-to-air filming sortie for the documentary "Spitfire-The Pursuit of a Dream".
The filming aircraft was an AFZ Vampire equipped with a camera pod and flown by Bill Sykes and Lt.Nev Weir.
They were flying past a towering cumulonimbus when Malloch suddenly and unexpectedly turned towards the cloud and flew straight into it. The Vampire followed him in and within seconds hit extreme turbulence, rain and hail.
When the Vampire got out of the cloud they expected to see the Spitfire in front or to the side of them but there was no sign of the Spit.Due to its Bingo fuel state the Vampire could not search the area to look for the Spitfire and had to return to base.
They made numerous radio calls without results and then called Salisbury tower.
Air Force Operations were alerted and a search was initiated but it was too close to darkness and nothing was achieved that day.
During mid morning of the next day a local farmer reported the crash and its location to the nearest police station.
After investigations, the Board of Inquiry's findings were that the aircraft impacted the ground in a slight dive, with wings level and the engine under power.The flaps and undercarriage were still raised in the flying position.
Why the Spitfire crashed has never been established.
The BoI concluded its report as follows : "Many factors have been considered in this accident.It is very difficult to reach a conclusive answer, and in the final analysis it must remain another of aviation's mysteries"
The above info is sourced from the book "Malloch's Spitfire - The Story and Restoration of PK350" by Nick Meikle.
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Unread post by richard C » Thu May 30, 2019 8:51 am

Tragic and bizarre :( :(

And, under sober scrutiny, a piercing look at what should be done with precious artifacts. Should they be preserved in museums ? Should they only be flown under controlled and managed circumstances ?

The South African Heritage Resources Association certainly maintains a strict legal control over your private property should it have historical significance. It may belong to you, but you need detailed applications, studies and management plans to use the property in a sustainable way that guarantees the historical aspect of the property.
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Unread post by Ray W » Thu May 30, 2019 2:24 pm

richard C wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 8:51 am
Tragic and bizarre :( :(

And, under sober scrutiny, a piercing look at what should be done with precious artifacts. Should they be preserved in museums ? Should they only be flown under controlled and managed circumstances ?

The South African Heritage Resources Association certainly maintains a strict legal control over your private property should it have historical significance. It may belong to you, but you need detailed applications, studies and management plans to use the property in a sustainable way that guarantees the historical aspect of the property.
Historic aircraft are meant to be flown (like any other aeroplane) :twisted: :twisted:
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Unread post by Mars » Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:15 pm

photon wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 4:17 pm
Ray W wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 8:55 am
richard C wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 8:22 am
Does anybody have the details of the crash ? I don't remember anything about this one.

Thanks
From what I remember, and I'm very open to correction, he was flying a photographic flight and flew into some clouds and never re-appeared in one piece. Cumulogranite ate him I believe
That is indeed what happened.
The Spitfire,with Capt.Jack Malloch flying,made its final flight in the afternoon of 26 March 1982.
The plane was returning to base after completing an air-to-air filming sortie for the documentary "Spitfire-The Pursuit of a Dream".
The filming aircraft was an AFZ Vampire equipped with a camera pod and flown by Bill Sykes and Lt.Nev Weir.
They were flying past a towering cumulonimbus when Malloch suddenly and unexpectedly turned towards the cloud and flew straight into it. The Vampire followed him in and within seconds hit extreme turbulence, rain and hail.
When the Vampire got out of the cloud they expected to see the Spitfire in front or to the side of them but there was no sign of the Spit.Due to its Bingo fuel state the Vampire could not search the area to look for the Spitfire and had to return to base.
They made numerous radio calls without results and then called Salisbury tower.
Air Force Operations were alerted and a search was initiated but it was too close to darkness and nothing was achieved that day.
During mid morning of the next day a local farmer reported the crash and its location to the nearest police station.
After investigations, the Board of Inquiry's findings were that the aircraft impacted the ground in a slight dive, with wings level and the engine under power.The flaps and undercarriage were still raised in the flying position.
Why the Spitfire crashed has never been established.
The BoI concluded its report as follows : "Many factors have been considered in this accident.It is very difficult to reach a conclusive answer, and in the final analysis it must remain another of aviation's mysteries"
The above info is sourced from the book "Malloch's Spitfire - The Story and Restoration of PK350" by Nick Meikle.
Thanks Photon,

Curious though that the Vampire followed the Spitfire into the cloud.

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