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Re: SAA Museum Society pix

Unread post by photon » Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:15 pm

North American Harvard Mk.II ZS-WLP in company of Boeing 747's ZS-SAT 'Johannesburg" and ZS-SAP "Swartberg"

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Boeing 727 ZS-SBG at Jan Smuts Airport

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photon wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:15 pm
North American Harvard Mk.II ZS-WLP in company of Boeing 747's ZS-SAT 'Johannesburg" and ZS-SAP "Swartberg"

ImageSAAMS__20190724_20a-res by omer mees, on Flickr
I used to work in that hanger, 747 stores. Long story but if it wasn't for the SAA GP back in the 90's I would have been part of the build of "Spook" :evil:
Is she still flying???
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Unread post by Christopher » Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:04 am

Two things for Photon:

(i) Didn't that DC-3 of AOC (-DJK) go on to fly with the Comair fleet, I think? And...

(ii) Re this remark of yours: <In the top r/h corner of the picture we can see a De Havilland DH89 Dragon Rapide next to a SAA Lockheed L1808 Lodestar, the tail of a SAA Dakota is also visible> I have been using my elderly eyes and cannot, for the life of me, see <anything> in the top r/h corner of that fabulous aerial photo of Rand...! You sure about what you wrote, mate? :roll: :P
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Unread post by photon » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:17 am

Christopher wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:04 am
Two things for Photon:

(i) Didn't that DC-3 of AOC (-DJK) go on to fly with the Comair fleet, I think? And...

(ii) Re this remark of yours: <In the top r/h corner of the picture we can see a De Havilland DH89 Dragon Rapide next to a SAA Lockheed L1808 Lodestar, the tail of a SAA Dakota is also visible> I have been using my elderly eyes and cannot, for the life of me, see <anything> in the top r/h corner of that fabulous aerial photo of Rand...! You sure about what you wrote, mate? :roll: :P
Hi Christopher

Sorry for the strain I caused to your elderly eyes :wink:
I should,of course,have typed "top l/h corner" but sometimes my elderly brain gets confused with all these letters on the keyboard :)
Thanks for pointing out my typo, I have rectified it in the relevant post.
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Re: SAA Museum Society pix

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Christopher wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:04 am
Two things for Photon:

(i) Didn't that DC-3 of AOC (-DJK) go on to fly with the Comair fleet, I think? And...

(ii) Re this remark of yours: <In the top r/h corner of the picture we can see a De Havilland DH89 Dragon Rapide next to a SAA Lockheed L1808 Lodestar, the tail of a SAA Dakota is also visible> I have been using my elderly eyes and cannot, for the life of me, see <anything> in the top r/h corner of that fabulous aerial photo of Rand...! You sure about what you wrote, mate? :roll: :P
I can only find the Rapide
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Unread post by photon » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:39 am

Here's an enlargement of the aircraft in the top l/h corner of the pic.

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Ray W wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:21 am
Christopher wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:04 am
Two things for Photon:

(i) Didn't that DC-3 of AOC (-DJK) go on to fly with the Comair fleet, I think? And...

(ii) Re this remark of yours: <In the top r/h corner of the picture we can see a De Havilland DH89 Dragon Rapide next to a SAA Lockheed L1808 Lodestar, the tail of a SAA Dakota is also visible> I have been using my elderly eyes and cannot, for the life of me, see <anything> in the top r/h corner of that fabulous aerial photo of Rand...! You sure about what you wrote, mate? :roll: :P
I can only find the Rapide
Is the one on bottom right corner a civilian Lancaster, it shure looks like it???
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Re: SAA Museum Society pix

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Tomcat1 wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:00 am
Ray W wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:21 am
Christopher wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:04 am
Two things for Photon:

(i) Didn't that DC-3 of AOC (-DJK) go on to fly with the Comair fleet, I think? And...

(ii) Re this remark of yours: <In the top r/h corner of the picture we can see a De Havilland DH89 Dragon Rapide next to a SAA Lockheed L1808 Lodestar, the tail of a SAA Dakota is also visible> I have been using my elderly eyes and cannot, for the life of me, see <anything> in the top r/h corner of that fabulous aerial photo of Rand...! You sure about what you wrote, mate? :roll: :P
I can only find the Rapide
Is the one on bottom right corner a civilian Lancaster, it shure looks like it???
Yep it is a Lancastrian
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Unread post by Tomcat1 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:39 am

Would love to see how the interior was kitted out. Were they used for passenger travel or cargo???
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Unread post by Tomcat1 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 10:52 am

Did some Google, generally 5 crew, 9 passengers, 3560kg mail payload, extra 400 pounds of fuel in the bomb bays and used by a number of airways :wink: ...interesting as I never knew they were converted for civilian use till now #-o 8-[

Oh, and was also used to find the magnetic North at the North Pole :wink:
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Unread post by thelsa » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:29 pm

photon wrote:
Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:26 pm
Boeing 727 ZS-SBG at Jan Smuts Airport

ImageSAAMS__20190724_13a-res by omer mees, on Flickr
Didn't they have any ground vehicles for push-back in those days? Why are they facing away from the building?
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Re: SAA Museum Society pix

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photon wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:17 am
Christopher wrote:
Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:04 am
Two things for Photon:

(i) Didn't that DC-3 of AOC (-DJK) go on to fly with the Comair fleet, I think? And...

(ii) Re this remark of yours: <In the top r/h corner of the picture we can see a De Havilland DH89 Dragon Rapide next to a SAA Lockheed L1808 Lodestar, the tail of a SAA Dakota is also visible> I have been using my elderly eyes and cannot, for the life of me, see <anything> in the top r/h corner of that fabulous aerial photo of Rand...! You sure about what you wrote, mate? :roll: :P
Hi Christopher

Sorry for the strain I caused to your elderly eyes :wink:
I should,of course,have typed "top l/h corner" but sometimes my elderly brain gets confused with all these letters on the keyboard :)
Thanks for pointing out my typo, I have rectified it in the relevant post.
Hi Christopher

ZS-DJK did not go to Comair.
It was built at the Douglas Oklahoma plant as a C-47A-1-DK and went to the USAAF as 42-92213.
Later it went to the RAF as FL581 ; in 1954 it came to the SAAF as 6813.
It was sold to AOC and became ZS-DJK ; later it was registered in Botswana for AOC as A2-ADB.
In 1986 it was sold and went to Zim as Z-WRJ.
On 20 Sep 1988 it was damaged beyond repair after a crash approx. 5km out of Harare airport.
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Unread post by photon » Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:44 pm

Some pics of the activities carried out by the personnel of SAA Technical

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