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Seen at FASY (Baragwanath)

Unread post by Etienne » Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:40 pm

GP-4... Not sure of the name of the builder - cvh:?
What a beautiful build though!
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Unread post by Etienne » Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:41 pm

And another...
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Unread post by kevinbark » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:45 pm

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Unread post by Etienne » Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:04 pm

kevinbark wrote:Tail is disproportionally small for my liking. But thats just my opinion -the rest looks pretty nice.
I agree that the tail looks a bit strange... For me it's the shape that I find odd. But I guess that's the price you pay for 200+kts cruise off 180hp!
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Unread post by cvh:. » Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:17 pm

Builder: Tony Van Den Heuvel.

And about that small tail - It does not even have a Rotax. O-360 with VP & invert system.

How do I get the feeling that certain AvCommers only like HUGE planes :D
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Unread post by cvh:. » Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:21 pm

Funny thing, I could not locate the old "Seen At BaraG / FASY" thread.

Baragwanath rules in the JHB area :twisted:
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Unread post by kevinbark » Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:39 pm

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Unread post by Etienne » Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:51 pm

Out of interest, what is that "283" painted on the nose-wheel gear door?
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Unread post by Bearcat » Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:04 pm

kevinbark wrote:I think its an awesome looking machine, except for the tail. Is that better cvh?
I agree with Kevin ..Awesome aerie .. odd tail...
When I saw these aircraft at Oskosh they were either all red or all yellow with white & black pin stripes & somehow the scheme took ones attention away from the odd tail. Perhaps this one needs some sort of markings on the tail.
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Unread post by Pirate » Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:49 pm

Agree with KB, the first thing I noticed here was how small the tail was compared to the rest of the aircraft!

Actually our modern aircraft have disproportionally large tails when compared to what they got away with in a/c like the Spitfire... look at even a cub, or compare a C170 to a 172... Luckilly GA aircraft needed more positive stability in yaw (many old aircraft were neutrally stable in yaw: if you stomp on the rudder and leave it, the aircraft will just keep on slipping instead of coming back to coordinated flight) so these days we have nice big tail surfaces!

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Unread post by Cornell Blok » Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:56 pm

And why s a twin aircraft's tail even bigger :?:
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Unread post by Etienne » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:04 pm

To counteract asymmetric thrust during single engine ops...
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Unread post by Cornell Blok » Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:11 pm

Etienne wrote:To counteract asymmetric thrust during single engine ops...

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Unread post by Ray W » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:45 pm

cvh:. wrote:Funny thing, I could not locate the old "Seen At BaraG / FASY" thread.

Baragwanath rules in the JHB area :twisted:
I don't think there's ever been one - maybe you can take lots of pics of the various aircraft there and post them for us to see.
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Unread post by cvh:. » Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:32 pm

There was an old "seen at FASY BaraG" thread ... because I started it :-) IIRC.

283 is the plan # (IIRC)... I do have weird friends.

KB, you are entitled to put it any which way you like :D
just reeling you in :D

It cruises at more than 200 kts (IIRC), maybe a bigger tail would incurr drag, just my thinking ... we'll have to ask Tony why his designer did what he did.

There are a lot of similarities between the GP-4 & the Falco, both in construction & design.

But what really gets people going (if they can get close) is the build quality... he did is all himself! If my plane could be this beautiful!

Tony Van Den Heuvel has completed several a/c all to superb standard. An Avid Flyer, a KR2, a VP-1, this GP-4 and he has started on his next project a Saab 4 seater. He also helped the late Martin Clark with his RV which was later completed by Mr John Strick.

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