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Re: Helicopter Images

Unread post by V5 - LEO » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:43 pm

Bearcat wrote:
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Bell 222B N510W at Rand Airport FAGM 222 CN 47133
11 Oct 2019
...she's quite butchered, donor craft
??
No, stripped down for respray..this one will be flying soon
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Unread post by cage » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:14 pm

Bearcat wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:38 pm
No, stripped down for respray..this one will be flying soon
At some point Henley will run out of old carcusses to buy and have to get some proper aircraft instead of these old bangers that no one else wants.
It's quite a frankensteinian approach to running a service.
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Unread post by Bearcat » Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:33 pm

cage wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:14 pm
Bearcat wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:38 pm
No, stripped down for respray..this one will be flying soon
At some point Henley will run out of old carcusses to buy and have to get some proper aircraft instead of these old bangers that no one else wants.
It's quite a frankensteinian approach to running a service.
Way too harsh Mr Cage... nobody disses King Air's built in the 80's and 90's as not being respectable aeroplanes so why should it be that only the newest fling wings are deemed acceptable
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Unread post by cage » Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:30 pm

Bearcat wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:33 pm
cage wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:14 pm
Bearcat wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:38 pm
No, stripped down for respray..this one will be flying soon
At some point Henley will run out of old carcusses to buy and have to get some proper aircraft instead of these old bangers that no one else wants.
It's quite a frankensteinian approach to running a service.
Way too harsh Mr Cage... nobody disses King Air's built in the 80's and 90's as not being respectable aeroplanes so why should it be that only the newest fling wings are deemed acceptable
Because Bell only sold a few, they were underpowered, have way too big a footprint and in the 2000’s no one in their right mind tries to use one for HEMS. It’s an unsustainable business model while everyone else invests in aircraft that are better suited for the job.
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Re: Helicopter Images

Unread post by Whirly » Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:57 am

cage wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:30 pm
Bearcat wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:33 pm
cage wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:14 pm


At some point Henley will run out of old carcusses to buy and have to get some proper aircraft instead of these old bangers that no one else wants.
It's quite a frankensteinian approach to running a service.
Way too harsh Mr Cage... nobody disses King Air's built in the 80's and 90's as not being respectable aeroplanes so why should it be that only the newest fling wings are deemed acceptable
Because Bell only sold a few, they were underpowered, have way too big a footprint and in the 2000’s no one in their right mind tries to use one for HEMS. It’s an unsustainable business model while everyone else invests in aircraft that are better suited for the job.
cage,

What is the name of your helicopter company and how many do you own? :? Henley has been around for yonks' and is a very successful company, I trust that Andre and his team know what they are doing. The "assumptions" people make regarding other people's businesses are mostly so way off as they don't have a clue what goes on in the background. #-o

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Unread post by cage » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:19 am

Whirly wrote:
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Henley has been around for yonks' and is a very successful company, I trust that Andre and his team know what they are doing.
Where did I say otherwise?
I just said it was unsustainable to use 222's.
They are an end of life aircraft, not that many were made and all the ones being bought now are being offloaded by US HEMS operators.
You can only canabalise for so long.
At some point you will have to be like the other HEMS operators and invest in newer aircraft.

Those are big, heavy machines and not particularly well suited to operating in urban envrionments due to their large footprint.
Why do you think so many others use 117's or 135's.

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Unread post by Whirly » Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:26 am

cage wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:19 am
Whirly wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:57 am
Henley has been around for yonks' and is a very successful company, I trust that Andre and his team know what they are doing.
Where did I say otherwise?
I just said it was unsustainable to use 222's.
They are an end of life aircraft, not that many were made and all the ones being bought now are being offloaded by US HEMS operators.
You can only canabalise for so long.
At some point you will have to be like the other HEMS operators and invest in newer aircraft.

Those are big, heavy machines and not particularly well suited to operating in urban envrionments due to their large footprint.
Why do you think so many others use 117's or 135's.
Because they don't have the expertise to run these machine like Henley does? :? Maybe by the end of their lives Henley will have made tons of money out of them to afford these other expensive machines should they chose to do so?

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Unread post by Tic » Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:26 pm

Without trying to jump into the middle of this one...

BUT - can anyone give cost/hour comparisons for 222 vs 117 vs 135

I see Halo have 117's @ Ultimate and 222's based ? FALA?
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Unread post by Bearcat » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:28 am

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Re: Helicopter Images

Unread post by Cornell Blok » Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:51 am

Whirly wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:57 am
cage wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:30 pm
Bearcat wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:33 pm

Way too harsh Mr Cage... nobody disses King Air's built in the 80's and 90's as not being respectable aeroplanes so why should it be that only the newest fling wings are deemed acceptable
Because Bell only sold a few, they were underpowered, have way too big a footprint and in the 2000’s no one in their right mind tries to use one for HEMS. It’s an unsustainable business model while everyone else invests in aircraft that are better suited for the job.
cage,

What is the name of your helicopter company and how many do you own? :? Henley has been around for yonks' and is a very successful company, I trust that Andre and his team know what they are doing. The "assumptions" people make regarding other people's businesses are mostly so way off as they don't have a clue what goes on in the background. #-o

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Unread post by Whirly » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:18 am

Bearcat wrote:
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Thanks Bearcat! My machine.

What she looks like now. :D

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