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Unread post by AWJ Cub Pilot » Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:18 pm

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29/12/2018 Piper PA22-160 Converted to taildragger ZS-WEZ
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Unread post by GL » Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:51 pm

Help me with some names here J. - Is that a short wing Piper? - is it a former Tri-Pacer - now just a Pacer? Maybe a Vagabond?
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Re: Seen at Coves private field - SW of Harties

Unread post by Air Bear » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:26 pm

GL wrote:
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Help me with some names here J. - Is that a short wing Piper? - is it a former Tri-Pacer - now just a Pacer? Maybe a Vagabond?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

The Answer is Yes to all but 1 option. Its not a Vagabond

The Short-Wing Piper Lineage is actually both complicated and simple at the same time. Simple as the aircraft just generally just got bigger and easier to fly. It gets complicated by it being one of the most modified aircraft of all time and by Piper's occasional backward cross-over of the models.

The family started with Piper PA-15 Vagabond. A 65hp side by side replacement of the Pipers venerable J3. The shortened wing was Piper's attempt to lower the production costs of their entry level aircraft.

Designed at the same time as a higher spec the PA-16 Clipper. Essentially a slightly longer version of the Vagabond with a 108hp Lycoming and flaps. This is where the Classic Pacer look would be founded.

Piper then took their first step back and created the PA-17 Vagabond Trainer by adding full dual controls to the PA15 Vagabond and changing the undercarriage.

The Clipper would then be further lengthened to accommodate 4 Seats and yokes replaced the control sticks of earlier models and dubbed the PA-20 Pacer. Horse power was increased initially to 125 but examples of upto 135 were offered. Some variants were only fitted with 3 seats.

With the world moving away from Conventional, Tailwheel undercarriage, Piper modified the Pacer into the PA-22 Tri-Pacer with the famous "Milkstool" Tri-cycle Undercarriage. Engine power varied between 125hp and 150hp.

In the early 60's, whilst Piper was setting up their New Factory at Vero Beach, the demand for Training Aircraft was going through a period of incredible growth. The new factory and its fledgling Cherokee Production line could not keep up with the demand.

Unwilling to give up anymore market-share to Cessna's 150, Piper needed an urgent interim model to give them time to get to full production of the Cherokee.

As such the Piper Colt was created. Whilst listed as PA-22, it has more in common with the earlier Clipper and Vagabond than the Tri-Pacer. Whilst it retained the Yokes and Tri-cycle undercarriage of the Tr-Pacer, The airframe and engine came from the Clipper and the Vagbond donated its flapless wings.

The Piper Colt was only in Production for around 2 years but it served its purpose.

Step in the Modifiers.....

Over the years many Tri-Pacer's have been modified Tailwheel Configuration. Some of these were done by homebuilders and some by STC.
In most cases, the aircraft retained its PA-22 designation but there have been some examples where it was assigned the PA-20 designation. ZS-DNB is such an example.

ZS-WEZ started life as a Tri-Pacer but has subsequently been modified to Tailwheel. She is still considered as a PA-22, but is known as a Pacer.
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Unread post by GL » Fri Jan 04, 2019 7:36 pm

Thanks K
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Unread post by Ray W » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:04 am

ZS-WEZ used to be ZS-DHD an old GC resident way back when.
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06/01/2018 A small gathering of a few machines!!

Bushbaby Explorer ZU-FPV, Piper Pacer PA22/20 ZS-WEZ, Cessna C170B ZS-EUO, Jodel D11 ZS-UEK, Husky ZS-MLG, Vans RV7 ZU-FLR and to not make the nosey feel left out RV7A ZU-JAD.
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06/01/2019 Seen from C170B ZS-EUO, 4 Ship - Piper PA22/20 Pacer ZS-WEZ, RV7 ZU-FLR, Aviat Husky ZS-MLG and Jodel D11 ZS-UEK
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