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Colour deficient

Unread post by KiloPapa » Fri May 24, 2019 7:36 pm

So I am "colour blind".

The rules,as I understand, state that I get disqualified from flying an aircraft where EFIS is the primary display.

1. What is "primary" display?

2. More importantly, on a G1000 I can clearly see all the primary info, just as good as the six pack, but still disqualified.

3. With the attached picture; is EFIS the "primary" display?

Help! please.

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Re: Colour deficient

Unread post by stefan » Sat May 25, 2019 2:48 pm

I am red/green deficient but my only restriction is VFR day. I have been flying EFIS only for more than 10 years and have never had any trouble using the instruments.
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Re: Colour deficient

Unread post by Flymed » Sat May 25, 2019 6:44 pm

Are you flying as a Class 4 medical? Then colour vision is not applicable.
That panel would not be considered as a primary and is also not sufficient for night of instrument flying, thus not an issue as a PPL without night flying and EFIS flying. As PPL CAA may insist on you doing a practical flight test in Comair's simulator. Yes, I know! ...
Have you done the CAD test?
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Re: Colour deficient

Unread post by stefan » Sat May 25, 2019 6:49 pm

I have been flying PPL and LSA for 20 years. All my aircraft are EFIS equipped but I dont fly night or instrument and my VFR by day only medical restricts me to that but I have never had any issues in 20 years. I have a class 2 and class 4 with the VFR restriction.
Never bothered me as I only fly by day and I mostly only use my PPL for some Test Flying.
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Re: Colour deficient

Unread post by KiloPapa » Sun May 26, 2019 9:01 pm

Going for medical on Thursday. I will keep you informed.
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Re: Colour deficient

Unread post by stefan » Tue May 28, 2019 8:08 am

Interestingly, I flew the SAA sim three times with mates of mine and yes they are DE's and sim instructors. 737 and Airbus. All of them said that they couldn't see any reason for me not to be able to fly night or IF. I see what they see. There are so many tools these days to get past a colour deficiency that it is not such a large restriction as it used to be. As far as I know the best recon pilots in the war were colourblind. We cant be fooled by camo 8) 8)
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Re: Colour deficient

Unread post by Flymed » Tue May 28, 2019 9:55 am

stefan wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 8:08 am
Interestingly, I flew the SAA sim three with mates of mine and yes they are DE's and sim instructors. 737 and Airbus. All of them said that they couldn't see any reason for me not to be able to fly night or IF. I see what they see. There are so many tools these days to get past a colour deficiency that it is not such a large restriction as it used to be. As far as I know the best recon pilots in the war were colourblind. We cant be fooled by camo 8) 8)
I fully agree with you, but I do not make the laws :(
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Re: Colour deficient

Unread post by stefan » Tue May 28, 2019 10:00 am

I think by making small and well thought out changes to runway lighting, systems and colour presentations on EFIS screens 95% of us should be able to fly Night and IF. If a red light is a problem, change the signal to a flashing light or something.
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Re: Colour deficient

Unread post by KiloPapa » Thu May 30, 2019 7:25 pm

Got the medical today. Night and IFR restriction as expected. Will see if there are any queries from CAA.

:)

Hope I can keep on smiling.
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Re: Colour deficient

Unread post by KiloPapa » Thu May 30, 2019 7:27 pm

Nothing mentioned about "where EFIS is the primary display".

Would like to see the latest notice to DME's.
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Re: Colour deficient

Unread post by KiloPapa » Wed Jun 12, 2019 5:39 pm

Got my SPL today. 6 days at CAA. Suppose not too bad.

So medical certificate state that I have VFR only with glasses and, No night or Instrument.

SPL restriction states VDL. Think that means glasses. But I suppose the medical stands above the SPL in this regard, or how does it work?
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Re: Colour deficient

Unread post by stefan » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:30 pm

I think VDL stands for VFR by Daylight only

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