Sleeping passengers 'robbed' in mid-air on SAA flight

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Sleeping passengers 'robbed' in mid-air on SAA flight

Unread post by Burner » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:39 pm

Very common not only on SAA flights too/from Hong Kong. Interesting that that student was also nabbed recently with all that forex, also headed to HK. Not a whole lot the airline can do to prevent this. Best way is to just make sure your cash is on your person.

https://www.heraldlive.co.za/news/2018- ... aa-flight/
Passengers aboard an SAA flight were allegedly robbed in mid-air of cash and jewellery as they slept on a flight between Johannesburg and Hong Kong.

Cabin crew were told by some passengers during the flight on Monday that their valuables – stowed in the overhead compartments – had gone missing.

The missing items‚ however‚ mysteriously turned up on some of the cabin seats after police in Hong Kong boarded the aircraft when it landed and searched some passengers who had behaved suspiciously.

SAA spokesman Tlali Tlali confirmed that an incident happened on flight SA 286 on Monday. While still en route to Hong Kong‚ “two passengers approached our crew complaining that they had lost their valuables (money and a watch)‚” Tlali said.

“One of the complainants was able to point out a few passengers who had behaved in a suspicious manner in the cabin and who were seen opening some overhead compartments while other passengers were sleeping.”

The crew alerted the authorities in Hong Kong and police boarded the aircraft when it landed.

“The rest of the passengers disembarked and suspects identified were ordered to remain in the aircraft and were searched by the police in Hong Kong‚” Tlali said.

“Nothing was found [on] them during the search‚” he said‚ adding that the suspects had to be released.

“The items complained of were however recovered by the cleaning staff as they cleaned the aircraft ... and were found on … the seats in the same cabin. The [items] was returned to the complainants.”

Tladi said SAA would not hesitate to impose a ban on any passengers who were reported to have breached its conditions of carriage as they formed part of the rights and responsibilities between the airline and its customers.
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Re: Sleeping passengers 'robbed' in mid-air on SAA flight

Unread post by Jel » Thu Oct 04, 2018 2:58 pm

Cant understand why someone would keep a large amount of cash in overhead bins... its just common sense not to...

As a rule when I fly passport, wallet, cash and phone always on me. Its inconvenient and a little uncomfortable but only the things I am "prepared to lose" go into overhead bins, and then with a lock and key on my bag...
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Re: Sleeping passengers 'robbed' in mid-air on SAA flight

Unread post by Burner » Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:21 pm

Strange that CCTV cameras inside the cabin are not used more on commercial airliners. In tubes/metros, buses, trains, trams in Europe, there are tons of cameras all over the pax cabin.
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Unread post by HAAN » Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:00 pm

Big problem on Hong Kong flights.
Huge sindigate consisting on more than 5 at a time working together.
Regulary on our flights between HKG-DXB passengers are robbed.
Found out exchange companies at HKG airport give out info of where passengers are seated
that just did big exchanges and then pass it on the men/woman working in packs.
One person steals the money then passes it around the other members so its difficult to find.
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Re: Sleeping passengers 'robbed' in mid-air on SAA flight

Unread post by Joker11 » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:51 am

HAAN wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:00 pm
Big problem on Hong Kong flights.
Huge sindigate consisting on more than 5 at a time working together.
Regulary on our flights between HKG-DXB passengers are robbed.
Found out exchange companies at HKG airport give out info of where passengers are seated
that just did big exchanges and then pass it on the men/woman working in packs.
One person steals the money then passes it around the other members so its difficult to find.
That is insane!
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Re: Sleeping passengers 'robbed' in mid-air on SAA flight

Unread post by nathani » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:03 am

flew ET on ADD-HKG and PVG- ADD, cabin lights were left on for the duration of the flight due to "theft reports on all Chinese sectors"
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Re: Sleeping passengers 'robbed' in mid-air on SAA flight

Unread post by Aspiring Mango » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:59 am

Not unique to SAA!

Anyone watching Ultimate Airport Dubai last week, would have seen it happens on Emirates as well
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Re: Sleeping passengers 'robbed' in mid-air on SAA flight

Unread post by MadMacs » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:07 am

Sounds like a repeat of a year or two ago.
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Unread post by Ray W » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:44 am

MadMacs wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:07 am
Sounds like a repeat of a year or two ago.
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Re: Sleeping passengers 'robbed' in mid-air on SAA flight

Unread post by V5 - LEO » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:20 pm

Ray W wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:44 am
MadMacs wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:07 am
Sounds like a repeat of a year or two ago.
Yes it does
....but was that not cabin crew involved??
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Unread post by biffvj » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:41 pm

Why does no-one know the difference between robbery and theft? On Avcom and everywhere else. A robbery is committed when they take your belongings forcefully from your person. An armed robbery is when they use a weapon to do the same. When someone takes something from your luggage that is theft and not robbery.
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Re: Sleeping passengers 'robbed' in mid-air on SAA flight

Unread post by danie.e » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:20 am

so I was not "robbed" but "thieved" :smt040
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Unread post by Aquila » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:54 am

danie.e wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:20 am
so I was not "robbed" but "thieved" :smt040
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Re: Sleeping passengers 'robbed' in mid-air on SAA flight

Unread post by Jel » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:31 pm

biffvj wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:41 pm
Why does no-one know the difference between robbery and theft? On Avcom and everywhere else. A robbery is committed when they take your belongings forcefully from your person. An armed robbery is when they use a weapon to do the same. When someone takes something from your luggage that is theft and not robbery.
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Re: Sleeping passengers 'robbed' in mid-air on SAA flight

Unread post by Deanw » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:46 pm

18 Oct 2018: News24
SAA blocks 2 suspicious passengers from boarding plane after recent mid-flight theft

South African Airways (SAA) on Thursday confirmed that two passengers were denied entry to one of its flights, following a recent theft during a flight from Johannesburg to Hong Kong.

According to SAA spokesperson Tlali Tlali, the airline acted to prevent any further incidents on the Hong Kong route.

He told TimesLive the two passengers intended travelling from Hong Kong to Tanzania, via the Johannesburg route, last week but "were denied travel" on SAA flights.

He claimed that the two passengers were associated with previous incidents of on-board theft.

"Once we are able to pick them up in the system‚ part of the processes we have introduced include conducting interviews with them to establish reasons or circumstances under which they travel," Tlali said.

No suspects were arrested in the theft, which occurred at the beginning of October on SAA Flight SA 286 to Hong Kong from Johannesburg.

In that incident, passengers had complained about money and a watch that went missing and the matter was brought to the attention of the crew, who arranged to have the police meet the aircraft on arrival. The identified suspects were searched by police, but nothing was found on them.

Cleaning staff later found the stolen items stashed away on the aircraft and the money was returned to the complainants.

According to Tlali, the suspects could not be arrested because "there was no evidence linking them directly to the incident"

Tlali told TimesLive that they had barred the two passengers from the Hong Kong to Tanzania flight because they "were able to determine certain similarities between two passengers who claimed to have no connection or association".

"There were other details that heightened our suspicions about them‚ especially in the light of previous association with incidents of theft on board."

SAA flights to Hong Kong have been fraught with thefts over the past couple of years.

In 2016, travellers were warned about a syndicate operating on flights to Asian destinations, alleged to have stolen millions of rands worth of goods.

SAA passenger Warren Becker's holiday was ruined after his luggage was ransacked aboard Flight 286 from Johannesburg to Hong Kong and "extremely valuable jewellery" and roughly R30 000 in foreign currency were stolen from his bag.

"They left all the South African rands as well as my camera, as if to make it look like nothing was taken," Becker said at the time, confirming that his bag had been locked for extra security, but the lock had been broken.

In February 2016, on SAA Flight 222 from Johannesburg to Sao Paulo, a couple's engagement ring, credit card and about R20 000 in cash were stolen from their hand luggage while they slept.
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