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SAA turnaround strategy

Unread post by Switch » Sun Jun 30, 2019 12:17 pm

Anyone with lots of insight into how SAA can be turned around. What do they need to do with:

Fleet? What long haul aircraft should they be using? Is the A320 the right domestic aircraft?

Routes? What routes should the be flying long haul, regional and domestic?

Should Mango and SAA Domestic merge and operate as a single low cost domestic airline with codeshares with SAA and allow SAA to focus on long haul international flights?

And any other insight that might help SAA become profitable...
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Re: SAA turnaround strategy

Unread post by Deanw » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:04 pm

Has less to do with aircraft and routes (although they are important) and more to do with historic debt and previous/current management, previous/current management practices, politics and "saving face".
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Re: SAA turnaround strategy

Unread post by 1900driver » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:50 pm

I am afraid that they may be beyond saving at this point in time.
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Re: SAA turnaround strategy

Unread post by LongRangeCruise » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:00 pm

Official email from Acting CEO today :

2 A350-900s will be in service in the second half of 2019.
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Re: SAA turnaround strategy

Unread post by Ned Yakman » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:04 pm

SAA news release issued this afternoon:

Media statement

South African Airways Introduces New State-of-the-Art Aircraft in its Fleet

Modern product offering to New York offers a transformed customer experience.

JOHANNESBURG. 30 June 2019. South African Airways (SAA) is introducing the latest technology, available in ultra-long-haul aircraft, hailing exciting news for customers travelling nonstop between Johannesburg and New York JFK.

SAA will supplement its existing long-haul fleet with new Airbus A350-900 aircraft, which are modern, twin-engine, and wide-body aircraft. These new-generation aircraft boast fuel-efficiency and other benefits and advantages. The aircraft will operate on one of SAA’s ultra-long haul routes between Johannesburg and New York’s John F Kennedy International Airport (JFK), replacing the A340-600 aircraft on this route and will still be operated on a nonstop basis.

“The introduction of these state-of-the-art aircraft to our fleet is an important step-change as we continue to make progress to transform our business and return the airline to financial sustainability in the shortest time possible.

“These aircraft present an immediate opportunity to offer an improved product between Johannesburg and New York which will be accompanied by unmatched and consistent customer experience for both Business and Economy Class customers,” says acting SAA CEO, Zukisa Ramasia.

The Airbus A350-900 is the world's premier aircraft and offers the highest levels of customer and crew comfort combined with excellent economics for ultra-long-haul flights. The aircraft also offers a modern In-flight Entertainment (IFE) system throughout the cabin.

The A350 has the latest offering in safety, maintenance and efficiency (technology). These aircraft present an opportunity for SAA to reduce fuel burn by approximately 20% compared to the aircraft currently operating on that route. This will translate into significant cost savings that will contribute towards improved operating costs and financial performance. In addition, the significance of this development is that it will add to a positive environmental impact, as SAA will also reduce its carbon emissions.

SAA will lease the aircraft for up to three years.

The A350 configuration has 246 Economy Class seats with the first six rows offering extra legroom to provide a more comfortable experience, especially on longer flights. The Business Class cabin has lie flat beds.

SAA will take delivery of the aircraft in the second half of 2019. The aircraft will be operational in SAA’s branding as soon as SAA has met the regulatory authority requirements.

“We are proud to offer our customers the latest generation aircraft with a modern product, including a quieter cabin, a more relaxing environment during flight, and the latest in-flight entertainment,” concludes Ramasia.

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Issued by SAA Group Corporate Affairs

About South African Airways:

South African Airways (SAA) is the leading carrier in Africa, serving 57 destinations, in partnership with SA Express, Airlink, and its low-cost carrier, Mango, within South Africa and across the continent, and nine intercontinental routes from its Johannesburg hub. It is a member of the largest international airline network, Star Alliance. SAA’s core business is the provision of passenger airline and cargo transport services together with related services, which are provided through SAA and its wholly owned subsidiaries: SAA Technical; Mango its low-cost carrier; and Air Chefs, the catering entity of SAA. SAA is the winner of the Best Airline Staff Service award in the Africa category; this shows that our customer-facing employees are our true brand ambassadors who made a difference to millions of travelling customers. SAA is one of six airlines globally certified as IEnvA Stage 2, the highest and most comprehensive level in terms of environmental regulatory compliance and governance thereto.

For media information, please contact:
SAA Spokesperson Mr Tlali Tlali

Email: TlaliTlali@flysaa.com

Mobile: +27 (0)82 333-3880

Office: +27 (0)11 978-2298

Marketing Enquiries:
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Re: SAA turnaround strategy

Unread post by pwnel » Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:35 pm

This just makes it worse. The 2-4-2 layout of the 340-600s on this route was a major benefit. Window seats with only one person next to you on a 15h flight made things much less cramped. Same for the person in the isle who never has more than one person wanting to climb over to go pee.

The 350-900 is 3-4-3 as far as I have it. It might suit the airline but it is definitely not going to make for a better customer experience.
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Re: SAA turnaround strategy

Unread post by LongRangeCruise » Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:36 pm

PWNEL :

I’m sure that if the worlds leading airlines (SQ,CX,QR) are flying the A350-900 on ULR routes , SAA would do just fine.
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Re: SAA turnaround strategy

Unread post by allanroy » Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:55 pm

A350-900 with Singapore is 2-4-2 layout for the ultra long range flights with 161 passengers.
and 3-3-3 layout for long haul with 253 passengers
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Re: SAA turnaround strategy

Unread post by evanb » Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:23 am

allanroy wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:55 pm
A350-900 with Singapore is 2-4-2 layout for the ultra long range flights with 161 passengers.
and 3-3-3 layout for long haul with 253 passengers
SQ have 3-3-3 in economy on all A350s. They 161 pax ULR doesn't have any economy, just business and premium economy.
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Re: SAA turnaround strategy

Unread post by airbusa346 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:13 pm

pwnel wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 4:35 pm
This just makes it worse. The 2-4-2 layout of the 340-600s on this route was a major benefit. Window seats with only one person next to you on a 15h flight made things much less cramped. Same for the person in the isle who never has more than one person wanting to climb over to go pee.

The 350-900 is 3-4-3 as far as I have it. It might suit the airline but it is definitely not going to make for a better customer experience.
I flew in the Singapore A350 earlier this year. The A350 has a 3-3-3 seating configuration, unlike the 3-4-3 seating configuration of the B777-300ER..
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Re: SAA turnaround strategy

Unread post by airbusa346 » Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:17 pm

Will the A330-900 NEO be a leasing option for SAA in the future?
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Re: SAA turnaround strategy

Unread post by evanb » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:46 pm

airbusa346 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:17 pm
Will the A330-900 NEO be a leasing option for SAA in the future?
Why?
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Re: SAA turnaround strategy

Unread post by GL » Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:21 pm

evanb wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:46 pm
airbusa346 wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:17 pm
Will the A330-900 NEO be a leasing option for SAA in the future?
Why?
okay - I'll bite - given shrinking loads due to SAA's structurally poor feed (and de-feed) the gauge may better suit A330-900 and - 800 (and maybe 787-9) than A350.
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Re: SAA turnaround strategy

Unread post by evanb » Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:33 pm

GL wrote:
Mon Jul 01, 2019 5:21 pm
okay - I'll bite - given shrinking loads due to SAA's structurally poor feed (and de-feed) the gauge may better suit A330-900 and - 800 (and maybe 787-9) than A350.
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The A350-900 is much the same size as the A330-900neo. The A350-900 just has a much higher MTOW and is necessary for ULH ops like JFK, HKG and CAN or where they might want a heavier payload like FRA. A330-900neo would be an A330-200/300 replacement which they don't need at present.
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Re: SAA turnaround strategy

Unread post by FoxTROT » Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:01 pm

Quote from the press release:
SAA will lease the aircraft for up to three years.
Up to 3 years?
What happens after 3 years?

Normally you would expect to see long haul leases of at least 5-7 years.

Unless SAA is testing the water, and if it doesn’t work for them they simply return the aircraft?

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