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Re: SAA A350-900 fleet

Unread post by Antman » Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:37 am

evanb wrote:
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WILDOG wrote:
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Good evening can anybody confirm that the SAA A350 will have a hot and high issues on USA flights. According to a SAA Captain the A350 will NOT be able to depart ORT until the outside air TEMP is 19Deg or below. This im sure if true will cause issues during the hot summer months?? Again then there only options would be to depart at 3am in the morning!!!!! OR go via Dakar etc. Please captains tell me this is not true?
Or will they keep this aircraft /fleet away from USA flights?
Any body with more info?
It's a lot more complicated than that. It will always be able to depart, just will what payload. No twin will get MTOW out of JNB and many quads don't either.

Assuming an MTOW of 280t, it should get a RTOW of between 270 and 275t at ISA, and an RTOW of between 265 and 270t at ISA plus 15. That is still exceptional performance.
That’s all very good, however ISA for JNB is 4’C which makes ISA +15, 19’C, so summer is going to be an issue.
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Re: SAA A350-900 fleet

Unread post by Trent772B » Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:27 am

HJK 414 wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:50 pm
evanb wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:17 pm
HJK 414 wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:04 pm
Fuel capacity A350-900 is much higher is it not ?
IINM - over 100 Tons ?? ( at .78 kg / ltr - in excess of 130.000 ltrs )

Does it need capacity fuel for the run to JFK ?
It'll need nowhere near the maximum fuel capacity on JNB-JFK. Carrying full fuel capacity on an A350 would result in a reduced passenger payload.
Interesting Evanb.

Sector is what ? - around 8000 Miles ? - Nonstop.
That is just under 13.000 Km
Fuel burn ? - ( 7 kg + / km or 25 lbs +/ mi on such a long sector ?? )
That would bring about around 91 Tons of fuel with no reserves ?

Close to max fuel with reserves then ? Or am I missing something ?

JK

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Re: SAA A350-900 fleet

Unread post by evanb » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:19 pm

Antman wrote:
Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:37 am
That’s all very good, however ISA for JNB is 4’C which makes ISA +15, 19’C, so summer is going to be an issue.
That's why it's a 10pm departure on the westbound leg in the summer season. For example, tonight, it'll be 19C at 10pm, as opposed to 28C daytime high.

There will be several days a year when they do have to leave more payload behind because of a higher temperature, but it'll be a relatively small number of days. Furthermore, the payload loss on those days will still be dramatically less in terms of revenue loss compared to the cost savings, maybe 25% less fuel compared to A346.
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Re: SAA A350-900 fleet

Unread post by Step » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:08 pm

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Re: SAA A350-900 fleet

Unread post by Slick » Sat Nov 16, 2019 6:32 pm

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Just got a FR24 notification now of ZS-SDC doing SA323 JNB-CPT. Doesn't look as though it has moved yet. Might just be a test or simulation.
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Re: SAA A350-900 fleet

Unread post by trees » Sat Nov 16, 2019 7:33 pm

Possible it was scheduled to do that flight today but nothing is flying currently because of strikes.
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Re: SAA A350-900 fleet

Unread post by RiNCEw1ND » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:40 pm

ZS-SDD on the taxi out now as SA4701.
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Re: SAA A350-900 fleet

Unread post by ERASER » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:16 pm

It might be a training flight but anyway its heading back to ORT.

PS Like the picture on Flight Rader 24, still the old A300, old springbok c/s and all.
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Re: SAA A350-900 fleet

Unread post by teds2 » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:17 pm

I watched it depart from the business class lounge.
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Re: SAA A350-900 fleet

Unread post by Norman Rogers » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:46 pm

Company acceptance flight.
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Re: SAA A350-900 fleet

Unread post by RiNCEw1ND » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:56 pm

ERASER wrote:
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It might be a training flight but anyway its heading back to ORT.

PS Like the picture on Flight Rader 24, still the old A300, old springbok c/s and all.
And she's off again.
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Re: SAA A350-900 fleet

Unread post by gregdeklerk » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:21 pm

I am hoping they sort out the SAA mess, otherwise there will be no A350 for much longer.
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Re: SAA A350-900 fleet

Unread post by SHREKKIE » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:27 pm

Hi Norman, hope you are well my friend.
Does the acceptance flight activate the lease?
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Re: SAA A350-900 fleet

Unread post by Norman Rogers » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:41 pm

Hi Shrekkie.

I would imagine so. These flights are Company Acceptance flights and at the same time signing out our instructors so that they can commence line training.

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Re: SAA A350-900 fleet

Unread post by Greg R-S » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:45 pm

One of the flights today was conducted by Mark Dethian with an Airbus instructor. This was to fulfil a CAA requirement of which there are a few more that need to be demonstrated. These will probably be done on a flight to Cape Town, hopefully, in the near future. :D

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