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Re: Airlines after Corona

Unread post by GL » Sun May 10, 2020 10:08 pm

The outrageous evidence:
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Re: Airlines after Corona

Unread post by Myle » Mon May 11, 2020 5:34 am

Some perspective...

Following the thread on Pprune.

I believe there has been no pilot redundancy yet but probably coming.

Quoting the last post.

“I don't mean to defend the company at all, but it would appear that the person to whom that letter was sent to had finished the whole CPL/IR training, type rating as well, but never started line training by her own decision cause she got married, her husband didn’t want her to fly, she asked for an office job but was declined, and she never flew a single line sector in her life.
All of this after being sponsored by the company.
Not entirely surprised they are asking for the training money back. Actually surprised they didn't do it sooner than 6,5 years.”
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Re: Airlines after Corona

Unread post by tansg » Mon May 11, 2020 8:27 am

GL wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 10:08 pm
The outrageous evidence:
There is a lot more to this than that letter. This is a specific case with a lot more history.
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Re: Airlines after Corona

Unread post by GL » Mon May 11, 2020 10:04 am

tansg wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 8:27 am
GL wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 10:08 pm
The outrageous evidence:
There is a lot more to this than that letter. This is a specific case with a lot more history.
Indeed. Myles post above mine plausibly explains a lot.
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Re: Airlines after Corona

Unread post by tansg » Mon May 11, 2020 10:15 am

GL wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 10:04 am
tansg wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 8:27 am
GL wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 10:08 pm
The outrageous evidence:
There is a lot more to this than that letter. This is a specific case with a lot more history.
Indeed. Myles post above mine plausibly explains a lot.
A lot more to this case than what Myles says. This was a special case with a particularly challenging individual. If you want to know more PM me.
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Re: Airlines after Corona

Unread post by paulw » Tue May 12, 2020 7:05 pm

Ryan Air announced that they will start flying again from 1 July.

Most likely be no social distancing on the aircraft as per another Aviation Analyst (not Ryan Air)
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Re: Airlines after Corona

Unread post by D228100 » Wed May 13, 2020 8:28 am

Sorry for a member of the press to be making the statement "The outrageous evidence" without first investigating the circumstances behind the document is outrageous. Just stinks of this continual effort to be the first to get in the news at any cost and bugger the facts. To many innocent persons been branded as undesirables as a result this sort of journalism.
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Re: Airlines after Corona

Unread post by Fransw » Wed May 13, 2020 1:04 pm

Social distancing kit for airliners...

https://www.popularmechanics.co.za/tech ... airplanes/
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Re: Airlines after Corona

Unread post by HJK 414 » Wed May 13, 2020 1:14 pm

Fransw wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 1:04 pm
Social distancing kit for airliners...

https://www.popularmechanics.co.za/tech ... airplanes/

Frans

I would be surprised if the airlines take this up ……
Per example - KLM is flying again - only face masks required
Ryanair starting up again - 1st June - only face mask required

I think this will be the norm...….
Flying with middle seat empty (of only 2 pax in row of 4 - each on the end ) is simply not sustainable


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Re: Airlines after Corona

Unread post by Falafel » Fri May 15, 2020 8:37 am

HJK 414 wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 1:14 pm
Fransw wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 1:04 pm
Social distancing kit for airliners...

https://www.popularmechanics.co.za/tech ... airplanes/

Frans

I would be surprised if the airlines take this up ……
Per example - KLM is flying again - only face masks required
Ryanair starting up again - 1st June - only face mask required

I think this will be the norm...….
Flying with middle seat empty (of only 2 pax in row of 4 - each on the end ) is simply not sustainable


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Personally I dont know what all the fuss is about...

Corona has changed things and therefore we need to change along with it....

Perhaps the days of the LCC carrier are finished and we should accept that not ALL can be saved.

Push up the price of the tickets, will reduce the global footprint of travel, greenhouse gases (not only aviation but the other imprint that happens along side it), airlines can be sustainable, maybe just not in their current form :?: Wow, we might even reduce greenhouse gases, prevent as much damage to the great barrier reef, etc... etc... and yes I am in logistics and travel :!:

The obsession we have with cramming as many people as possible into an aircraft at all costs perhaps should change... how simple is it to increase the price, and keep the social distancing mantra going... easier to get on an aircraft, easier to get off, more space... this is not rocket science.

Seems man is stubbornly sticking to the "business as usual" line and we are simply going back to high deaths and lockdowns... :!: :!: :!:
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Re: Airlines after Corona

Unread post by Chuck » Sun May 17, 2020 7:55 am

Sam Chui, a professional airline passenger (youtuber) has a few interesting takes on the changes in air travel:

'What we find on internet, we readily believe, and what we ourselves find, we imagine others find also.'
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTSvgPO7jNU
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Re: Airlines after Corona

Unread post by Snitch » Sun May 17, 2020 10:48 am

Emirates to Permanently Decommission 40% of Airbus A380 Fleet, Axe Nearly a Third of Cabin Crew and Pilots
https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2020 ... nd-pilots/
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Re: Airlines after Corona

Unread post by Snitch » Sun May 17, 2020 10:57 am

MIA lol
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Re: Airlines after Corona

Unread post by rvanzyl » Sun May 17, 2020 3:28 pm

Not sure this is old news but see attachments below.
ICAO promotes COVID-19-free public health corridors (PHC) to keep vital air cargo moving
There is also mention of
Further PHC provisions in aid of humanitarian, repatriation, and
scheduled passenger operations will be developed within the
scope of ICAO’s Council Aviation Recovery Task Force (CART), in
collaboration with aviation industry and public health authorities.

It should be noted that the SACAA is a participating organization of the ICAO Medical Provisions Study Group of the Collaborative Arrangement for the Prevention and Management of Public Health Events in Civil Aviation (CAPSCA).
Input to SACAA might be useful to ensure your organizations interests are considered.

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Re: Airlines after Corona

Unread post by Snitch » Sun May 17, 2020 8:27 pm

Qatar CEO: A380s "will not return for at least a year, maybe never"
https://www.executivetraveller.com/news ... ver-return
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