New forum - INSTRUMENT FLYING

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New forum - INSTRUMENT FLYING

Unread post by Hop Harrigan » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:46 pm

Hi all,
I would like to propose the creation of a new forum dedicated to INSTRUMENT FLIGHT.
The Mods require a poll to evaluate the interest that there might be in such a new Forum.
Please be so kind as to VOTE ON THE POLLl if you would be interested in the creation of such a forum.
Herewith a short (:-)) motivation for an INSTRUMENT FLIGHT forum.

1) The CAA is in the process of making an Instrument Rating for PPL's far
more accessible by simplifying the requirements for this Rating. There is
quite a lot of discussion on this matter going on on the existing forums
(fora?). This could be nicely consolidated into a new IF forum.
2) We are in a new era of RNAV navigation using GPSS where many airports,
which previously did not have have RNAV approaches are now having these
designed e.g. Grand Central, Plettenberg Bay and recently Lanseria. There
is plenty to be discussed about the design, implementation, usage, of these
new approaches.
3) GNSS licensing requirements are currently quite a mystery. There is
confusion as to what rating/license is required to use GNSS approaches and
how one goes about the training, testing, currency etc for this rating. It
is also very difficult to obtain any information regarding GNSS
courses/training and the courses that are available certainly leave a great
deal to be desired. An IF forum could stimulate the industry to offer
better service on this aspect of flying.
4) Many GA aircraft currently can potentially handle a GNSS approach.
Apparently all it requires is a WAAS certified GPS receiver and the paperwork to get the
particular aircraft certified for GNSS approaches. However it is almost
impossible to find out how to go about getting one's aircraft certified for
this function. The new forum could answer a lot of these questions.
5) SA Navaids are being removed/abandoned/neglected...and one or two new ones built (FALA ILS). This forum would be a good source of information on the state of the SA Navaids including VOR's/NDB's/ILS's/GNSS approaches.
6) Instrument Flying is specialised and demanding. There is potential for
volumes of discussion by pilots on the subject. Ranging from discussion on
specific SA approaches, techniques, theory, currency, weather and cloud flying,
and the list goes on.

I think that an IF forum would be of interest to many non-IF-rated pilots
and could well encourage them to put in the time/money to obtain a rating.

This can only be of benefit in enhancing GA safety in RSA and in reducing the CFIT accident rate. As
such, an IF forum could greatly benefit the aviation community.
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Re: New forum - INSTRUMENT FLYING

Unread post by Iceberg » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:21 pm

Very good idea.
I've flown single pilot IF for 20 years as a non-professional pilot.
Many think I am nuts, but it has worked very well for me and I always promote it to anyone that asks.
Once you are on top of IF flying it definitely enhances safety and it can be a lot of fun.
Plus it is very satisfying to complete a flight successfully that would be impossible if you could only fly VFR.
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Re: New forum - INSTRUMENT FLYING

Unread post by Hop Harrigan » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:26 pm

Hi Karl,
Couldn't agree more....I've only recently obtained my IFR and fly single pilot, single engine IF. Nothing crazy about it at all, and the most satisfying thing one can do is to break out of the cloud at your destination and the runway is there, right where it should be!
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Re: New forum - INSTRUMENT FLYING

Unread post by delmur » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:34 pm

Very good idea.

I definitely promote this new IF Forum.
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Re: New forum - INSTRUMENT FLYING

Unread post by 87Juliet » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:40 pm

Great article in this month's SA Flyer mag discussing this very topic.
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Re: New forum - INSTRUMENT FLYING

Unread post by boneman » Fri Apr 08, 2016 3:28 pm

Agree a good idea.
Could we also add weather related topics to the forum?
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Re: New forum - INSTRUMENT FLYING

Unread post by jimdavis » Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:51 pm

I am not sure that a forum would be better than a new thread.

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Re: New forum - INSTRUMENT FLYING

Unread post by Hop Harrigan » Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:16 pm

Hi Jim, while a new thread would be appropriate for a single IF related subject such as "Where do I get GNSS training", the proposed forum is intended to cover the entire gambit of IF related interests. A single new thread will dilute the concept to the point where there will be very little benefit for everyone.
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Re: New forum - INSTRUMENT FLYING

Unread post by jimdavis » Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:38 pm

You are probably right. Thanks Hop.

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Re: New forum - INSTRUMENT FLYING

Unread post by Sea Rescue » Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:39 am

Hi Hop,
Iceberg said it up front - once you have mastered I.F flying, you enjoy flying in a more professional way and actually wonder how you ever managed without it ?? The instrument rating also brings additional KNOWLEDGE that stands one in good stead.

Many I.F. rated pilots have told me that since they have had their Instrument rating, they fly less in bad weather because they are much more aware of the risks involved !!

Here is my +1 vote for you.
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Re: New forum - INSTRUMENT FLYING

Unread post by Hop Harrigan » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:36 pm

Hi Sea Rescue, couldn't agree more...I think my IF training/flying has been more rewarding than my PPL was initially (I did the 7-subject IFR on the new syllabus).
Far more precise flying, far more aware of the weather issues and far safer. And far more satisfying. Just learn to talk and listen fast when under Jhb Radar :-)
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Re: New forum - INSTRUMENT FLYING

Unread post by Christo » Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:43 pm

Academy is there already. Just post threads there. I am pretty sure that was the original thought around it.
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Re: New forum - INSTRUMENT FLYING

Unread post by Hop Harrigan » Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:32 pm

Hi Christo, I partly agree with you, however the Acedemy forum has become very generalized. In the US the CFIT stats are a lot better than ours, partly due to a more accessible IF rating as our own CAA is now implementing. I think that by placing direct emphasis on the IF rating and Instrument flight in general, we can go some way to reducing the SA CFIT stats. I think that a dedicated IF forum could provide the required focus.
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Re: New forum - INSTRUMENT FLYING

Unread post by rare bird » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:14 pm

jimdavis wrote:I am not sure that a forum would be better than a new thread.

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tend to agree with Jim and Christo. a thread is better in my opinion - otherwise we end up with hundreds of forums for only a few hundred members!
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Re: New forum - INSTRUMENT FLYING

Unread post by Shane Nesbitt » Sun May 22, 2016 8:17 pm

It is long overdue, it can only make for safer flying..ZSZ-ITC : :D

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