Rudi’s Fokker E-III ‘Eindecker’ Build

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Re: Rudi’s Fokker E-III ‘Eindecker’ Build

Unread post by Euro Flyer » Thu May 18, 2017 8:03 am

Hybrydza wrote:Subscribed! This is very exciting, good luck with the build!
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Re: Rudi’s Fokker E-III ‘Eindecker’ Build

Unread post by RudiGreyling » Fri May 19, 2017 12:11 pm

Update, the replacement plans have shipped from USA, but it will not be in time to do anything this weekend :(

In the mean time here is a short video of the special UK SSDR (Singe Seat De Regulated below 115KG) version that they power with 40-45 HP. This version has longer wings for better wingloading and lower stall speed, and use a smaller HP engines.
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Re: Rudi’s Fokker E-III ‘Eindecker’ Build

Unread post by RudiGreyling » Tue May 23, 2017 9:36 am

Frustration: The plans has not yet arrived at the courier forwarded in New York. I use Aramex Global Shopper and very happy with them for small parcels from all over the world. I have asked the manufacturer to send the plans with tracking, but they send it with United States Postal Service (USPS) not to be confused with (UPS) without tracking #-o So now it is a case of wait a little longer and hope and pray they arrive....

PS: if you are interested in courier forwarding small parcels from all over the world to yourself, PM me, I have a free Aramex Global shopper joining voucher code, valid till 31 May. Joining and account setup fee is usually $45! So getting it for free is a bargain. I paid $45 joining many moons ago.

To pass the time here is a great article that mirrors why I want to build it too:
https://howtospendit.ft.com/vehicles/11 ... ate-airfix
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Re: Rudi’s Fokker E-III ‘Eindecker’ Build

Unread post by ppakotze » Tue May 23, 2017 9:39 am

Do you have the Silk scarf and goggles yet?
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Re: Rudi’s Fokker E-III ‘Eindecker’ Build

Unread post by RudiGreyling » Tue May 23, 2017 9:56 am

ppakotze wrote:Do you have the Silk scarf and goggles yet?
Ha Ha Not YET! But will definitely need to get some, and the machine gun of course! (Still need to figure out best place to buy and best configuration for Leather Cap, Headset and Goggle integration. :wink:
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Re: Rudi’s Fokker E-III ‘Eindecker’ Build

Unread post by ColdFingers » Fri May 26, 2017 9:33 am

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ppakotze wrote:Do you have the Silk scarf and goggles yet?
Ha Ha Not YET! But will definitely need to get some, and the machine gun of course! (Still need to figure out best place to buy and best configuration for Leather Cap, Headset and Goggle integration. :wink:
Rudi, Just make sure you synch the machine gun with the engine correctly! :wink:
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Week 1: Slow start on the elevator

Unread post by RudiGreyling » Mon May 29, 2017 2:21 pm

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Week 1: Slow Start on the Elevator

Good afternoon Av8tors,

Good news is my plans showed up in New York at the courier, so now I can track the delivery...bad news they are not here in SA yet so the build could not start in earnest.

So I read the book by funny man Dick Starks of the Kit Planes Dawn Patrol Fame ( www.dawnpatrol.org )...a laugh a minute about his experience building a little WW1 plane. The book is available as a loan from me if someone is interested. I Also bought his DVD set and watched it...also available as loan to interested parties.
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Then I bought some new tires and tubes for my little 120kg Airplane, BMX 'Trick' Tires without the nobbies R90 each and tubes with steel valve R40. I think the smooth tread will look good on the airplane, and man you cannot beat that price!
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The plans should arrive this week so in anticipation I got ready...I bought some plotter paper that was on special at Makro R200. (Man I wish I know where the butcher gets his paper roll from, it would even be cheaper) to tape it down on table.
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You draw out the plan full scale and then you build on the table, you hopefully see that next week. Here is the paper to table and on the right is all the parts ready for the Elevator build to start. Simple and easy part count hey?
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Now I just have to wait for the plans to arrive this week then I can officially start.

Till next Week
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Re: Rudi’s Fokker E-III ‘Eindecker’ Build

Unread post by ppakotze » Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:02 am

Nou kort jy net daai Fokker se planne...
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Re: Rudi’s Fokker E-III ‘Eindecker’ Build

Unread post by Hybrydza » Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:05 am

:lol:
ppakotze wrote:Nou kort jy net daai Fokker se planne...
:lol: :lol: :lol:
When in doubt, gas it! It may not solve the problem but should end the suspense!
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Re: Rudi’s Fokker E-III ‘Eindecker’ Build

Unread post by RudiGreyling » Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:33 am

Hybrydza wrote::lol:
ppakotze wrote:Nou kort jy net daai Fokker se planne...
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Jippie Ek het die Fokker se planne gekry :twisted: !!!

This weekend I will start with the H-Stab/Elevator. The Kit Supplier reckon 9 hours to build it, with a little luck I will complete it this weekend. Below is one page of the H-Stab Layout from the plans, I erased the dimensions (to protect the kit supplier rights). You transfer the plans to full scale on the paper on the table then you start bending aluminium tube to match. More on that on Monday after the weekend.

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Re: Rudi’s Fokker E-III ‘Eindecker’ Build

Unread post by Braam Hechter » Fri Jun 02, 2017 12:35 pm

Rudi, mag jy die bou vreeslik baie geniet en daardie droom n werklikheid maak. Dit behoort nou al hoe vinniger te gaan. Jy behoort teen Kersfees al te kan vlieg... Groetnis
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Re: Rudi’s Fokker E-III ‘Eindecker’ Build

Unread post by RudiGreyling » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:15 pm

Braam Hechter wrote:Rudi, mag jy die bou vreeslik baie geniet en daardie droom n werklikheid maak. Dit behoort nou al hoe vinniger te gaan. Jy behoort teen Kersfees al te kan vlieg... Groetnis
Baie Dankie Braam. Daar is geen haas nie, ek geniet die bou! Groetnis
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Week 2: Elevator Complete

Unread post by RudiGreyling » Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:53 pm

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Week 2: Complete the Elevator

Good evening Av8tors,

I completed the Elevator this weekend, it took me 11 hours (the kit supplier says 9 hours, but I am still learning new skills and figuring out new techniques and working with new tools)

I will provide extra detail with this post to share the initial experiences of the build and techniques used in case someone else wants to evaluate their ability to build it.

The AA (Airdrome Aeroplane) plans are very basic (Compared to Vans RV), and there are no written instructions. You get a DVD video with key instructions as they build the prototype and a CD with lots of build photos. Between those 3 and the internet as a resource, and 2 Skype calls to the kit supplier you get through it.

1st Step is to transfer the plans to full scale paper on flat table
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Then you create a couple of bending radius blocks as per the plans. This is my bending rig at the end of my table. Use a spring so the tube don't collapse. Insert the tube and bend it around the radius block
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You also need to collapse the end of the tube and flatten it to attach it to the spar. I cut a little wooden block with the shape to collapse the pipe. Notice the BLUE sharpie lines. You cannot collapse the pipe without annealing the tip, basically softening it by heating it up. If you use a Butane flame like in the next picture, you heat it up until all the blue sharpie lines disappear then it is soft enough to collapse.
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Butane can and torch purchased from Makro
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This is what the pipe looks like after the bend and collapsing the end.
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Keep on going down the length of the tube and make all the bends, one by one. Use the Full scale plans as reference and put positioning blocks as you go. You quickly realise that you cannot work to 1mm accuracy when you make all these consecutive bends in the same long length of tube, so you end up with TLAR (that looks about right +/-5mm). Structural integrity, edge distances and general outline shape are more important than 1mm accuracy here. Make both Left and Right on the same jig.
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Cut and add the elevator spar, cut the ends of the spar to fit outline tube. (Remember to fit the inner spar sleeve for strength and 2 hinges)
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A view of the spar end cut to fit outside tube
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Anneal the Spar tip and bend it closed with this simple clamp made out of 2 angles and 2 clamps
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Another view of it
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Fit the spar and lift the leading and trailing edge by 1/4" spacers all around in preparation for the ribs, so that the LE and TE are centered around the spar.
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This is my little sheet bending rig. Bought from Aircraft spruce. You can see some flat sheet and some ribs already bent.
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Fit the ribs, drill all the rivet holes where it looks right (TLAR), remember edge distances (2 hole diameters from any edge). Pop Rivet it, turn over, drill and pop rivet the other side.
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The Finished Elevator: Total Build Time 11 Hours - This is going to be a very quick building kit!
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This week I hope to start on the Fuselage

PS: I will keep all the full scale paper drawings I make, if you ever buy a AA Fokker E-3 kit, you can have it and it will save you a bit of time drawing them out. First come first served. Proof of kit purchase required.

Till next Week
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Re: Rudi’s Fokker E-III ‘Eindecker’ Build

Unread post by FLYGUYS » Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:09 am

Awesome Rudi, thanks for sharing.
Looks like a lot of fun :D :D
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