Best light turbine hours for CPL?

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Best light turbine hours for CPL?

Unread post by Fransw » Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:42 pm

Asking for a friend..

What is the best light turbine hours to have for a CPL-H and why? 206jr/206lr/R66/Airbus/bell 505/etc....

Thanks and muchas gracias! :D
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Re: Best light turbine hours for CPL?

Unread post by Rotor kop » Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:36 pm

What about a helicycle? Much more difficult to start than any other (complicated) and not to mention cheap? I know the jealous okes will whine its not a "real" turbine....i beg to differ, it is exactly the same and sounds the same and burns the same fuel :)

I am referring to hour building obviously. There have been a few guys in the US that did 1000 hours helicycle and went on to fly big things 8)
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Re: Best light turbine hours for CPL?

Unread post by Fransw » Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:45 pm

Rotor kop wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:36 pm
What about a helicycle? Much more difficult to start than any other (complicated) and not to mention cheap? I know the jealous okes will whine its not a "real" turbine....i beg to differ, it is exactly the same and sounds the same and burns the same fuel :)

I am referring to hour building obviously. There have been a few guys in the US that did 1000 hours helicycle and went on to fly big things 8)
So you think it doesn't matter on what turbine machine..

But say for example this guy has an opportunity to do ±300 hours on a turbine machine, after his Cpl. Wouldn't it be better to do it on a more commonly used machine for future job opportunities?
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Re: Best light turbine hours for CPL?

Unread post by Rotor kop » Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:50 pm

Fransw wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:45 pm
Rotor kop wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:36 pm
What about a helicycle? Much more difficult to start than any other (complicated) and not to mention cheap? I know the jealous okes will whine its not a "real" turbine....i beg to differ, it is exactly the same and sounds the same and burns the same fuel :)

I am referring to hour building obviously. There have been a few guys in the US that did 1000 hours helicycle and went on to fly big things 8)
So you think it doesn't matter on what turbine machine..

But say for example this guy has an opportunity to do ±300 hours on a turbine machine, after his Cpl. Wouldn't it be better to do it on a more commonly used machine for future job opportunities?
Yes sure it would. But if you needed the hours to get the turbine hours up i would use helisukkel. No difference when going for ATPL, a cesna 152 has been very popular in getting a lot of those hours. :wink:
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Re: Best light turbine hours for CPL?

Unread post by Fransw » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:18 pm

Thanks RK!

My next question: Which candidate do you think is more employable: The one with 1000 piston hours or the one with 150piston hours and 350 turbine hours(say on the 206jr)..
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Re: Best light turbine hours for CPL?

Unread post by flyting » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:07 pm

You'd be extremely lucky to get a turbine job with a fresh CPL.
Be in the right place at the right time with +600hrs total (all pisten) and you'll get you first chance at a turbine.
It's the Total hours that counts not how many turbine hours.
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Re: Best light turbine hours for CPL?

Unread post by syphon » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:55 pm

So which would be more economical 400 hours on a helisukkel or R22?
You can have fast, good or cheap; now pick two!
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Re: Best light turbine hours for CPL?

Unread post by CommanderKeen » Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:39 pm

flyting wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:07 pm
You'd be extremely lucky to get a turbine job with a fresh CPL.
Be in the right place at the right time with +600hrs total (all pisten) and you'll get you first chance at a turbine.
It's the Total hours that counts not how many turbine hours.
I agree with your first statement but I disagree about the turbine time. Having turbine time can make a difference, as it did with my first big break. If I didn't have some turbine time already with a type rating on one of the turbine helicopter types used by the company, I would not have got the job with them. Having some turbine time will make you more employable than another pilot with the same hours but only piston time.

However, I would not use a Helicycle for these hours but rather something like a Jetranger that you may fly as a first turbine job. Of course that all depends on what the pilot doing the training can afford.
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Re: Best light turbine hours for CPL?

Unread post by Fransw » Sun Mar 31, 2019 10:34 am

CommanderKeen wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:39 pm
flyting wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:07 pm
You'd be extremely lucky to get a turbine job with a fresh CPL.
Be in the right place at the right time with +600hrs total (all pisten) and you'll get you first chance at a turbine.
It's the Total hours that counts not how many turbine hours.
I agree with your first statement but I disagree about the turbine time. Having turbine time can make a difference, as it did with my first big break. If I didn't have some turbine time already with a type rating on one of the turbine helicopter types used by the company, I would not have got the job with them. Having some turbine time will make you more employable than another pilot with the same hours but only piston time.

However, I would not use a Helicycle for these hours but rather something like a Jetranger that you may fly as a first turbine job. Of course that all depends on what the pilot doing the training can afford.
Commander, on what turbine type did you have time? The JR?

Agree, its also about the quality hours and not only the quantity..
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Re: Best light turbine hours for CPL?

Unread post by CommanderKeen » Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:12 pm

My first turbine was the AS350 Squirrel, as I had an opportunity to get some hours on it at a very good rate. My first big break was flying AS350, EC130 and EC120.

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