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Re: Gazelle Helicopters

Unread post by cage » Wed May 31, 2017 11:35 am

Whirly wrote:cage,

I did not know what the overhaul requirements for the G2 were and looked it up. According to what I read the first G2 overhaul was done at the factory in France after 2200 hours in 2012. That is what I based my statement on. I know very little about them apart from the fact that they are very expensive. :o

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They're quite nice machines, just lack puff for Joburg use.
I could at least fit in one, unlike the TuTu 8-[

btw TT straps aren't (weren't) that expensive (guess it depends on your definition of expensive).
Not sure what they cost now in SA Ront, I'm sure @BellPilot can confirm. He has a few JetBangers.
As you're aware a helo doesn't hurt toooo badly if everything goes to plan, they generally become painful when something unexpected happens - some are just more painful than others.
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Re: Gazelle Helicopters

Unread post by Whirly » Wed May 31, 2017 11:40 am

cage wrote:
Whirly wrote:cage,

I did not know what the overhaul requirements for the G2 were and looked it up. According to what I read the first G2 overhaul was done at the factory in France after 2200 hours in 2012. That is what I based my statement on. I know very little about them apart from the fact that they are very expensive. :o

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They're quite nice machines, just lack puff for Joburg use.
I could at least fit in one, unlike the TuTu 8-[

btw TT straps aren't (weren't) that expensive (guess it depends on your definition of expensive).
Not sure what they cost now in SA Ront, I'm sure @BellPilot can confirm. He has a few JetBangers.
As you're aware a helo doesn't hurt toooo badly if everything goes to plan, they generally become painful when something unexpected happens - some are just more painful than others.
cage,

I have hedged myself against that eventuality by spending R millions on spares, my whole 15 x 30 x4m hangar full! #-o :lol:

T-straps,for me, flying only 20 hours per year, were expensive at R100 000 fitted, every two years back in the day. Now the PMA ones have three years and I have no idea about cost. :?

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Re: Gazelle Helicopters

Unread post by cage » Wed May 31, 2017 11:49 am

Whirly wrote: cage,

I have hedged myself against that eventuality by spending R millions on spares, my whole 15 x 30 x4m hangar full! #-o :lol:

T-straps,for me, flying only 20 hours per year, were expensive at R100 000 fitted, every two years back in the day. Now the PMA ones have three years and I have no idea about cost. :?

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4 years ago it was approx R125k.

I met a guy in the US that has a warehouse full of Jetty bits. He could build several if he wanted to, it's a pretty shrewd move to hog spares. Very Sneaky indeed :D
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Re: Gazelle Helicopters

Unread post by Vlerkies » Wed May 31, 2017 3:43 pm

Top Gear Season 17 Ep 05

The 3 nutters went to go get some military equipment from Witham MOD disposal yard, apparently all up for sale, or at least some of it.
Anyway, they walk into one room and it was full of Gazelle's.
Image

Only clip I could find, really poor quality and crop. Skip to 35 min on ward.

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Re: Gazelle Helicopters

Unread post by Swannie » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:07 pm

Who can assist me with an Gazelle rating in SA?
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Re: Gazelle Helicopters

Unread post by Whirly » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:09 pm

Swannie wrote:Who can assist me with an Gazelle rating in SA?
If you have a Gazelle, then you should only do your conversion with (General) Hugh Paine. He is in Hungary at the moment (on Gazelle business) but should be back next week.

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Re: Gazelle Helicopters

Unread post by Swannie » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:41 pm

Whirly wrote:
Swannie wrote:Who can assist me with an Gazelle rating in SA?
If you have a Gazelle, then you should only do your conversion with (General) Hugh Paine. He is in Hungary at the moment (on Gazelle business) but should be back next week.

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Do you know of a gazelle that is on a ATO?
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Re: Gazelle Helicopters

Unread post by Whirly » Fri Jun 02, 2017 4:42 pm

No. Speak to Johan Lok at Warbirds, Wonderboom.

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Re: Gazelle Helicopters

Unread post by Swannie » Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:27 pm

Whirly wrote:No. Speak to Johan Lok at Warbirds, Wonderboom.

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I have one but it's not on a ATO yet
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Re: Gazelle Helicopters

Unread post by Bearcat » Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:46 pm

Vlerkies wrote:Top Gear Season 17 Ep 05

The 3 nutters went to go get some military equipment from Witham MOD disposal yard, apparently all up for sale, or at least some of it.
Anyway, they walk into one room and it was full of Gazelle's.
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Only clip I could find, really poor quality and crop. Skip to 35 min on ward.

Food for thought...
There are 13 Gazelles in this Top Gear pic...
When I visited Johan Loks hanger on the 18 May ... there were also 13 Gazelles in his hangar :shock: :shock:
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Re: Gazelle Helicopters

Unread post by Alan Robertson » Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:48 pm

Speak to Ivan van Rooyen (DFE) at ATS Helicopters, Grand Central.

Excellent instructor with lots of time on the Gazelle.
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Re: Gazelle Helicopters

Unread post by Swannie » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:56 pm

Whirly wrote:No. Speak to Johan Lok at Warbirds, Wonderboom.

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Do you have his contact details for me please
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Re: Gazelle Helicopters

Unread post by Swannie » Fri Jun 02, 2017 8:57 pm

Whirly wrote:
Swannie wrote:Who can assist me with an Gazelle rating in SA?
If you have a Gazelle, then you should only do your conversion with (General) Hugh Paine. He is in Hungary at the moment (on Gazelle business) but should be back next week.

Whirly.
Can you assist me with his number please.
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Re: Gazelle Helicopters

Unread post by bell pilot » Fri Jun 02, 2017 9:38 pm

Cage is spot on.
Bell 206 Tension-Torsion straps are not the problem. You should plan for them, it's expected. They around R100k each set depending on which usd rate you get. Each set lasts for 3 years or 1200 hours (jettie 2), a bit more hours on the jettie 3 ones. 1500 I think.
It's the unexpected issues that bite hard....just had an engine chip light on one machine, R260 000 ex VAT later and we flying again. That's not fun, but it's part of turbine helicopter ownership.
And they tell me Bell's Rolls Royces are "cheap" to fix compared to the EC's turbamecca's like on the EC120. Ouch...
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Re: Gazelle Helicopters

Unread post by Whirly » Sat Jun 03, 2017 2:52 pm

Swannie wrote:
Whirly wrote:No. Speak to Johan Lok at Warbirds, Wonderboom.

Whirly.
Do you have his contact details for me please
I have sent you a pm.

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