First Blackhawk in South Africa!

Rotary Wing, Rotor Craft and Helicopter discussions.

Moderator: Moderators

Vlerkies
Airborne from Unmanned field
Posts: 479
Joined: Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:45 pm
Closest Airfield: Virginia KZN
Location: Dirtbin
Has liked: 2 times
Been liked: 2 times

Re: First Blackhawk in South Africa!

Unread post by Vlerkies » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:18 pm

Looks great =D>
There is an art . . . to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.
— Douglas Adams
Mars
1k poster
1k poster
Posts: 1030
Joined: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:19 pm
Has liked: 3 times
Been liked: 7 times

Re: First Blackhawk in South Africa!

Unread post by Mars » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:27 pm

Awesome 8) 8) 8)
Matzikitzoro
Mags Dead Cut
Posts: 60
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:32 am
Closest Airfield: Goetsenhoven
Has liked: 0
Been liked: 0

Re: First Blackhawk in South Africa!

Unread post by Matzikitzoro » Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:59 am

Great pics!

Can someone explain to me why the blackhawk tailrotor sits at an angle? It seems like it was designed to push the tail down or pull the tail up also, not just for torgue control as per other helis?
matt8
Priming
Posts: 35
Joined: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:04 pm
Closest Airfield: FACT
Location: cape town
Has liked: 0
Been liked: 0

Re: First Blackhawk in South Africa!

Unread post by matt8 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:32 am

One of the original engineers on the design said the canted TR design was done to help with the CofG (UH60 had an aft CofG I think) and also gave it about another 400lbs of lifting capability in the hover. Pretty damn impressive from just a slight offset.
Also mentioned an increase in sideways movement capability - less induced flow on the tail I guess.
Matzikitzoro
Mags Dead Cut
Posts: 60
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:32 am
Closest Airfield: Goetsenhoven
Has liked: 0
Been liked: 0

Re: First Blackhawk in South Africa!

Unread post by Matzikitzoro » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:43 am

Thanks. That's a pretty elegant solution.
User avatar
Walter105
Too Tousand
Too Tousand
Posts: 2697
Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:30 pm
Location: Fourways
Has liked: 5 times
Been liked: 7 times

Re: First Blackhawk in South Africa!

Unread post by Walter105 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:46 pm

Matzikitzoro wrote:Great pics!

Can someone explain to me why the blackhawk tailrotor sits at an angle? It seems like it was designed to push the tail down or pull the tail up also, not just for torgue control as per other helis?
There is a nice discussion of that feature on the below forum, also going into some of the technical aspects of the flight control system and coupling needed because of the tilt angle of the rotor:

http://helicopterforum.verticalreferenc ... ail-rotor/
The best place to find a helping hand is at the end of your arm.
Matzikitzoro
Mags Dead Cut
Posts: 60
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:32 am
Closest Airfield: Goetsenhoven
Has liked: 0
Been liked: 0

Re: First Blackhawk in South Africa!

Unread post by Matzikitzoro » Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:33 am

What you lose on the swing you gain on the merry-go-round...
User avatar
Great Dane
1k poster
1k poster
Posts: 1943
Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2010 1:37 pm
Closest Airfield: FAWK
Location: Pretoria - 4km NE of FAWK
Has liked: 2 times
Been liked: 0

Re: First Blackhawk in South Africa!

Unread post by Great Dane » Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:01 pm

Anyone know if this beauty is planed to be around for the Lowveld Airshow 12 May :?:
User avatar
rotorbug
Frequent AvComer
Posts: 602
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:21 am
Closest Airfield: FAVG
Location: Durban
Has liked: 0
Been liked: 0

Re: First Blackhawk in South Africa!

Unread post by rotorbug » Fri May 11, 2018 7:18 pm

First Blackhawk at an airshow in South Africa.

FANS airshow practice today.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
"Education is important, but Aviation is importanter!"

SA CPL(H)
User avatar
Deanw
Six Tousand
Six Tousand
Posts: 6292
Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2004 1:37 pm
Closest Airfield: FACT
Has liked: 8 times
Been liked: 48 times

Re: First Blackhawk in South Africa!

Unread post by Deanw » Sat May 12, 2018 3:42 pm

rotorbug wrote:First Blackhawk at an airshow in South Africa.
But the HH-60G Pave Hawk was flown at AAD at AFB Ysterplaat in 2010 already ... :wink:
How come every time my ship comes in I'm at the airport?

http://www.SAairforce.co.za
User avatar
rotorbug
Frequent AvComer
Posts: 602
Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:21 am
Closest Airfield: FAVG
Location: Durban
Has liked: 0
Been liked: 0

Re: First Blackhawk in South Africa!

Unread post by rotorbug » Mon May 14, 2018 4:34 pm

Deanw wrote:
rotorbug wrote:First Blackhawk at an airshow in South Africa.
But the HH-60G Pave Hawk was flown at AAD at AFB Ysterplaat in 2010 already ... :wink:

I hear so from the photographer, Gary Shephard!
"Education is important, but Aviation is importanter!"

SA CPL(H)
User avatar
lampiesJR
Frequent AvComer
Posts: 816
Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:21 pm
Closest Airfield: Porterville
Location: Porterville
Has liked: 10 times
Been liked: 9 times

Re: First Blackhawk in South Africa!

Unread post by lampiesJR » Mon May 14, 2018 5:23 pm

Deanw wrote:
rotorbug wrote:First Blackhawk at an airshow in South Africa.
But the HH-60G Pave Hawk was flown at AAD at AFB Ysterplaat in 2010 already ... :wink:
Correct. Wasn’t she flown in by a C-17?
Matt 6:33
User avatar
allanroy
Frequent AvComer
Posts: 800
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:56 pm
Closest Airfield: FACT
Has liked: 0
Been liked: 1 time

Re: First Blackhawk in South Africa!

Unread post by allanroy » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:44 pm

from facebook
Kishugu
28 mins ·
A new fire has flared up in the Kaapse Hoop area. All LEFPA aerial resources are in full operation and for the very first time, the Black Hawk is also fighting fires under LEFPA's name. The LEFPA ground teams and additional Working on Fire ground crew will take over for the night shift. "We ask the public to please be vigilant. All burning permits have been suspended until further notice as the FDI will remain yellow to orange for the rest of the week," Andre Scheepers, manager at LEFPA stated. "Good luck to all the firefighting teams who help save lives, the environment, and property."
Fransw
Fower Tousand
Fower Tousand
Posts: 4765
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2015 3:22 pm
Closest Airfield: Pretoria
Location: Pretoria
Has liked: 101 times
Been liked: 33 times

Re: First Blackhawk in South Africa!

Unread post by Fransw » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:20 am

What is going on here Rotorbug? The US Air force need to see this! :lol:

Please tell us more about the operation!..
WhatsApp-Image-2018-08-29-at-10.22.19.jpeg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
User avatar
allanroy
Frequent AvComer
Posts: 800
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:56 pm
Closest Airfield: FACT
Has liked: 0
Been liked: 1 time

Re: First Blackhawk in South Africa!

Unread post by allanroy » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:25 am

The article on the The Leading Edge Team working together with wildlife vets to rescue this large male rhino.

https://scontent-jnb1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5C6312FC

Return to “Rotor Wing”