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Tilt vs Sliding canopy

Unread post by AntonKruse » Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:52 pm

Hi folks

I too hope to start building my 7A in the next few years.
Only problem is i haven't been able to decide between the 2 canopy options...
On the one hand I know the vis is so much better on the tilt-up, but on the other hand I do prefer the look of the slider.
The thing that worries me most about the tilt-up is that it would seem (to me anyway) that your instruments and avionics are at a far greater risk should a leak develop where the canopy hinges.
Is this a valid concern or am I just being paranoid? Is there a channel at the hinge that the water can follow once entering the groove/join or do you just have to be extra careful each time you open the canopy...?
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Re: Tilt vs Sliding canopy

Unread post by StuartA » Wed Sep 07, 2011 2:29 pm

That's one of the old "religious" conundrums (like iPhone vs Blackberry) to which there is no answer.

Have a look at http://www.vansairforce.com/community/s ... hp?t=50903

and while you are about it http://www.vansairforce.com/community/f ... ysprune=-1

and http://www.vansairforce.com/community/f ... ysprune=-1

(I have got an RV-7 with slider and very happy with it)

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Re: Tilt vs Sliding canopy

Unread post by wingnutzster » Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:17 pm

hahah, the 'Sliders' are the only folk who will tell you there is little difference - anyone who looks at it objectively or has owned a tip-up or tilting canopy -especially on the RV's will tell you with out a doubt the tip up is better. Off the top of my head I can list a bunch of advantages over the slider -
* Fantastic (almost 360deg) field of view and all round visibility - the tip-up has a real fighter feel about it from inside - and from the outside! Since the forward canopy frame and windshield upright are missing the view is completely unobstructed.
* Easier to install - although some dispute this. I am finding the tip-up installation to be a pretty straightforward affair
* Greater access to the otherwise covered up and hidden areas of your airplane for servicing, maintenance and construction.
* Besides being on your back, easier to open or remove a tip up as opposed to a slider or sideways hinging canopy in an emergency..

Just some of the points I can think of, there are many more but as I said, those who went with slider option will swear it is the way to go - not all of them though :) and I have heard it depends on the individual's needs and specific requirements, but i can't imagine a scenario where the obstructed, complicated, often malfunctioning slider contraption will beat the brilliant tip-up.

So much so that I am looking into a tip-up mod to the RV-3. =D>
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Re: Tilt vs Sliding canopy

Unread post by AntonKruse » Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:38 pm

I'm still keen to understand how well the hinge system seals.
I'll be at FAKT next weekend. Hopefully I can get a good look at both options there. :D
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Re: Tilt vs Sliding canopy

Unread post by wingnutzster » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:42 am

Just go with the tip-up man!

=D> =D> :lol: :lol: - sorry couldn't help myself - serious from now on! :roll: :oops: :twisted:
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Re: Tilt vs Sliding canopy

Unread post by ibeaton » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:56 pm

Hehe,

Like the analogy.

We chose the tip up based upon uninterupted view and ease of access to instrumentation.

It is also the way Vans designed it. just like the tail dragger, it does not need the peduncle hanging on the front.

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Re: Tilt vs Sliding canopy

Unread post by TC » Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:39 pm

Wingnutzer you BEAUT!!!!

Tip up, tip up or tip up.
My wife keeps saying I don't listen to her or something like that !?
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Re: Tilt vs Sliding canopy

Unread post by AntonKruse » Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:27 pm

thanks for all the input guys. tip-up it is going to be! :)
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Re: Tilt vs Sliding canopy

Unread post by flymonkey » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:33 am

Just a thought

If you live in a windy zone you got to be careful with the Tip Up cos it's like a spinnaker and it might just take off :lol:
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Re: Tilt vs Sliding canopy

Unread post by AntonKruse » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:43 am

Yes, I read that too.
Don't the RVs come with a parking break?
I suppose u could just park into the wind too tho, right?
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Re: Tilt vs Sliding canopy

Unread post by heisan » Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:06 am

Just as a matter of interest. ... I see a number of older aircraft with slider canopies can open the canopy in flight - is this true for the RV range too?
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Re: Tilt vs Sliding canopy

Unread post by Vliegskaap » Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:37 am

heisan wrote:Just as a matter of interest. ... I see a number of older aircraft with slider canopies can open the canopy in flight - is this true for the RV range too?
Not an expert on the topic, but I remember reading somewhere that opening a RV slider canopy in flight might cause it to get ripped off, possibly also taking your vert stab with it.
At least it wont be warm in the cockpit anymore... :twisted:
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Unread post by crazeeflya » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:53 pm

As a matterof interest, how involved would a conversion from slider to tip-up be?....(assuming the screen is cracked and requires replacing anyway)
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Re: Tilt vs Sliding canopy

Unread post by heisan » Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:44 pm

Vliegskaap wrote:
heisan wrote:Just as a matter of interest. ... I see a number of older aircraft with slider canopies can open the canopy in flight - is this true for the RV range too?
Not an expert on the topic, but I remember reading somewhere that opening a RV slider canopy in flight might cause it to get ripped off, possibly also taking your vert stab with it.
At least it wont be warm in the cockpit anymore... :twisted:
Well, there goes the only advantage I could think of for a slider ;) .
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Re: Tilt vs Sliding canopy

Unread post by sweptwing » Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:28 pm

The slider canopy is fantastic to have open with engine running and taxiing around on most days under the african sun! I won't be able to make it with the canopy closed. It just gets to hot in there for me without the fresh air streaming in that you otherwise have in flight.
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