End of e-tolls?

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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by Christo » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:43 am

Big poo poo if they catch him with that :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by V5 - LEO » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:47 am

....I think going to such lengths as hiding your registration plate is pure silly and cowardly, if you want to make a stand and do not want to pay, just don't pay - this fences on criminal activity :twisted:
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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by Jack Welles » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:25 am

Christo wrote:
Big poo poo if they catch him with that :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yep, criminal - fraud. The following car must have known that was going to happen to have kept focus in that way. So that really bright spark has it posted on Facebook. So now the whole world and its brother knows that registration. It's known as evidence. :idea:
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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by bosvark » Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:13 am

wasabi wrote:In an article during the beginning of e-toll Beeld newspaper apparently reported that for every Rand only 20 cents go to pay the road. WTF? Also, the consumer protection act clearly states that a business entity cannot charge me for something I haven't received/ used. Guess who uses gantries to charge you for a piece of toll road you haven't used in some cases? The list goes on.

Typical cANCer mentality - they don't test their own skewed rules & regulations against their laws approved by their parliament. So eventually it goes to the ConCourt where it sinks (and the tax payer foot all the legal bills).

Fact is, like the weapons scheme, this one was thought up first and foremost as a scam to siphon off cash into some back pockets. Providing roads to improve traffic flow and thus productivity was just a "fringe benefit". There are thousands of bottlenecks in the main roads around Gauteng which f-up traffic flow, especially during the peaks but nothing is done about it. Because they cannot create a scam where they just have to put in one extra lane for 50 or 200 meters or so.

The problem with these toll roads, didn't they use a lot of Simple Service pension fund money to fund the scam? ( In effect, stealing money from the pension fund)
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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by BigglesSA » Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:56 pm

Jack Welles wrote:
Christo wrote:
Big poo poo if they catch him with that :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yep, criminal - fraud. The following car must have known that was going to happen to have kept focus in that way. So that really bright spark has it posted on Facebook. So now the whole world and its brother knows that registration. It's known as evidence. :idea:
Ag no man Jack, the car was only winking at the tollgate man!!!! :lol:

It is like when JZ said he will pay back the money :wink:
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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by Jack Welles » Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:57 pm

BigglesSA wrote:
Jack Welles wrote:
Christo wrote: Big poo poo if they catch him with that :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yep, criminal - fraud. The following car must have known that was going to happen to have kept focus in that way. So that really bright spark has it posted on Facebook. So now the whole world and its brother knows that registration. It's known as evidence. :idea:
Ag no man Jack, the car was only winking at the tollgate man!!!! :lol:
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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by Dusty Eagle » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:23 am

Anything more on Sanral trying to collect.

They are now sending out a Legal Notice of Demand via ETC [ Electronic Toll Collection ]
You are given 14 days to comply, failing which an attorney will be instructed to issue a summons.

bank account details are given as SANRAL less 60 account.
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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by SlowApproach » Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:36 am

They can "demand" all they want to. If you're not a registered "etollie" but an OUTA member, just wait for the summons, pass it on to them and they will "enter a notice of intention to defend" and the related plea on your behalf. There are thousands of such summons already with plea entered. More than enough to royally-clog up the courts with SANRAL's bull, for years. I don't think the magistrates and high court judges will stand for that as there are far more important matters they have to attend to. In the meantime, SANRAL is, rightfully so, bleeding out...
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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by thelsa » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:02 am

I am even prepared to do some time by not paying my e-toll fee

Wish we could do something to stop the rot at ESKOM though.
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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by BigglesSA » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:38 am

thelsa wrote:
Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:02 am
I am even prepared to do some time by not paying my e-toll fee

Wish we could do something to stop the rot at ESKOM though.
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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by danie.e » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:57 am

Anyone need some cameras? I plan on doing some affirmative shopping and do not think anyone will miss a few of those overhead ones :smt040
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Re: Pay e-tolls via Internet banking

Unread post by Jack Welles » Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:04 am

Pay them via Internet Banking -
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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by Dusty Eagle » Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:56 pm

Hey Jack.
Thats a great idea, but what if its 50 000.00..take a photo of a cheque.

Chances are that they will print and deposit it and it will be honoured... :lol:
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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by danie.e » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:00 pm

What about some IT clever guy get us Malema's bank account number then we all return our accounts with his number and payment instructions. Maybe include the Zoomer accounts as well.
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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by heinrich » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:18 pm

Mouser wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:15 am
I just hope there is no sweetheart deal with Kapsch as I understand there is with Gautrain - if there aren't the estimated number of passengers (revenue), the "state" picks up the tab.
Like Bosvark mentioned already, this "investment" was sourced/backed with state pension schemes. :? :? Big trouble on the horison...

This is a stokou article (2015), but I guess still holds true:
Over the last few months Sanral has quietly continued to close down e-Toll outlets in shopping malls and retail outlets and considering that Sanral requires over 200 million Rand per month to operate the tolling, the monthly income of about 100 million Rand has made it impossible for Sanral to settle any debt and the organisation is desperately raising new bonds to continue operation. Sadly, a large portion of the Sanral investment has been sourced from state-pension schemes which will leave many government workers without retirement income if the South African government continues to insist that pay-per-use is the right choice of servicing a defunct national road system.
https://www.naschenweng.info/2015/01/09 ... nd-pocket/

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