End of e-tolls?

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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by Ugly Duckling » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:01 am

You can get onto the N12 at Edenvale and drive to Jet Park without passing a gantry. There are many sections which are not tolled which is effectively unfair.
It would have been better to have 2 lane gantries at each on & off ramp than the monsters across the highways.
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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by Jack Welles » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:11 am

Ugly Duckling wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:01 am
You can get onto the N12 at Edenvale and drive to Jet Park without passing a gantry. There are many sections which are not tolled which is effectively unfair. It would have been better to have 2 lane gantries at each on & off ramp than the monsters across the highways.
Haven't seen them myself, but I always understood the principle behind toll roads was that there should always be an alternative route, albeit less attractive, eg, longer or narrower etc etc.

As an aside: the taxation fundis find nothing wrong with the user pays (an indirect tax) principle but it should be utilised to reduce direct taxation, not as an alternative method of screwing more money out of the public at large.
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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by heinrich » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:38 am

This is simply a smaller version of the Russian nuclear deal that died a still birth. A little taste of what would have happened...
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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by BigglesSA » Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:40 am

Jack Welles wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2019 4:03 pm
The real reason, I believe, is because they can't blacklist anyone on a Sanral court unpaid default judgment with the credit bureau. Which removes from them a most potent weapon.

The courts have ruled that a Sanral judgment doesn't meet the definition in the NCA Act for blacklisting the defendant on credit bureau, because it's that Act that authorises such listings and the Sanral judgments don't fall under the NCA Act.

Just a theory, but I like it :lol:
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Re: End of e-tolls?

Unread post by Jack Welles » Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:52 pm

:D given certain responses I think I need to clarify something with regard to "my theory".

I wasn't talking about the legalities affecting blacklisting (they are, after all, kind of obvious) but the effect the court decision had on Sanral's backing off on issuing summonses. My theory was that that court decision about blacklisting played into the decision Sanral made about stopping issuing summonses.
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