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Re: Emigration options

Unread post by Ugly Duckling » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:49 pm

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Unread post by Fransw » Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:16 pm

Whirly wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:42 pm
My daughter in law received a very nice call just after 9 am this morning, it was her birthday, and the lady on the other side wished a very happy birthday. She also said she had a gift for her, turned out she was the case officer for their immigration process. Their permanent residency was approved! :D They now have friends from SA living a few houses from them and are adapting really well.

I am very happy for them. :D

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Unread post by Whirly » Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:22 pm

Frans,

They have been in Auckland NZ, for the past two years.

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Unread post by Fransw » Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:29 pm

Whirly wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:22 pm
Frans,

They have been in Auckland NZ, for the past two years.

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Oh yes! You mentioned that. But the residency permit is a big thing...
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Unread post by paulw » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:29 pm

Whirly wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:42 pm
My daughter in law received a very nice call just after 9 am this morning, it was her birthday, and the lady on the other side wished a very happy birthday. She also said she had a gift for her, turned out she was the case officer for their immigration process. Their permanent residency was approved! :D They now have friends from SA living a few houses from them and are adapting really well.

I am very happy for them. :D

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Unread post by paulw » Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:33 pm

My wife just received her letter this past week for her 5 year residence card thats approved.
Here you need to come and then apply unlike NZ with proof of income, proof of address, etc, etc. So she was on a temporary "Visa" till approved to stay and then get 5 years in one go.
I think in Ireland you can only get permanent residence after 5 years living here.
Citizenship is def only after 5 years.
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Unread post by hugo_visser » Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:46 am

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Unread post by paulw » Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:05 am

paulw wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:33 pm
My wife just received her letter this past week for her 5 year residence card thats approved.
Here you need to come and then apply unlike NZ with proof of income, proof of address, etc, etc. So she was on a temporary "Visa" till approved to stay and then get 5 years in one go.
I think in Ireland you can only get permanent residence after 5 years living here.
Citizenship is def only after 5 years.
Re-reading this, I think I must just clarify a bit before people jump on a plane and want to live here thinking it is very easy. It's not if on SA passports only. (or other non-EU and non-EU meaning not "EEA and Switzerland" - although Switzerland is not part of EU, it is part of the EU Freedom of Movement Treaty)....and EEA include some non-EU countries too.

--If all SA passport holders only, then you need to find a job and apply for work permit from outside Ireland. (not sure about if self sufficient or starting a business, but can also be done but starting a business in this case require E75k if not mistaken). Work permits in two groups - General work permit and Critical skills work permit and then some jobs are on ineligible list. If work permit holder is on General work permit, then dependants can only come after 12 months, but those on Critical Skills can bring dependants immediately.

--If Irish passport holder, jump on a plane and come and bring SA passport holder (wife/husband/dependants) with and apply for residence permit here. No E75k required to start a business, just about E239,- to register

--If EU passport holder like me under EU Treaty Freedom of Movement, jump on plane and come and bring SA passport holder (wife/husband/dependants) with and apply for residence permit for dependants while here. (So wife came and received 90 days visitors stamp in passport and we had 90 days therefore to apply for her residence permit) However, you need proof of address where you live, partner must be listed too, utility bills, show that you have enough income (Self sufficient) or applying for jobs (have proof) or have a job.
Then within weeks you receive a letter to get a temporary residence permit card giving her a few more months while official application is still in progress and final decision is made. Usually take about 6-8 months. So you are in the country starting a new life but don't know if you can actually stay. No E75k required to start a business, just about E239,- to register

Other EU countries apply EU Treaty Freedom of Movement rules slightly different but same basics apply. Some easier than others.

It's amasing how many SAFFA'S come to Ireland. Almost daily a family land here.
Same for Malta, Spain, Portugal, Netherlands, etc.
Lots of SAFFA'S in Japan too.
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Unread post by Fransw » Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:57 am

Whirly wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:22 pm
Frans,

They have been in Auckland NZ, for the past two years.

Whirly.
Whirl, how long for citizenship from here. Do they need to speak that funny language?
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Unread post by Whirly » Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:02 am

Fransw wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:57 am
Whirly wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:22 pm
Frans,

They have been in Auckland NZ, for the past two years.

Whirly.
Whirl, how long for citizenship from here. Do they need to speak that funny language?
I will ask, but I think it is three years, not sure. :?

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Unread post by Fransw » Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:05 am

Whirly wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:02 am
Fransw wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:57 am
Whirly wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 6:22 pm
Frans,

They have been in Auckland NZ, for the past two years.

Whirly.
Whirl, how long for citizenship from here. Do they need to speak that funny language?
I will ask, but I think it is three years, not sure. :?

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Re: Emigration options

Unread post by lion » Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:30 am

Whirly wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:02 am

They have been in Auckland NZ, for the past two years.

Whirly.

I will ask, but I think it is three years, not sure. :?

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It is five years following residency (usually one can apply for Citizenship a few weeks prior to the five year period). Residency can be as quick as a few months or can sometimes take a few years. Residency also has conditions that need to be met, different criteria apply for different categories.

How to apply for NZ citizenship

Citizenship

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Unread post by Jack Welles » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:24 pm

Must be a bugger after you've spent all that money to get the Cypriot Golden visa and then they take it away from you (but keep the money?)

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Unread post by paulw » Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:36 pm

I heard that there are so many people emigrating this year that there is a big backlog at Onderstepoort for doing blood tests for the animals. Where it used to be 4 weeks, it is now 4-5 months.

Any truth in that?
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Unread post by rare bird » Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:04 pm

yes, it seems to be a few months - enquired with my vet and they were going to send it to a lab in Europe instead

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