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Re: Magazine comedy articles

Unread post by cage » Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:07 pm

Jack Welles wrote:
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cage wrote:
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Guy, not everyone will be writing in a stiffer style suited for hobby magazine editors ;)
Adverbs, tautology, hyperbole all exist to allow a writer some license to get their story across.
I find the use of proper punctuation far more .. sorry, more relevant. :twisted:
Nothing to do with a stiffer style. You just don't "see" good writing. The ideal outcome is where readers are unaware of the words being used, they're totally involved in the story (or article). As soon as writers get fancy, ie, insert their clever ideas into the writing (usually to try and make it more "interesting") they lose readers. It may not bother you, but it will bother someone. Once you lose readers they're hard to get back.
50 shades of Gray sold millions, the average 9-year old could probably write something better.
Equally, there are thousands of well-written manuscripts no one will ever see.
It's all in the eyes of the reader.
Someone with talent (and a bit of good sub-editing) can skirt the rules of the English language with flair.
Talent is the challenging bit.
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Re: Magazine comedy articles

Unread post by Jack Welles » Mon Aug 19, 2019 6:21 pm

cage wrote:
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Talent is the challenging bit.
The fickle nature of what goes viral with the masses is a significant factor, call it luck or chance, but it plays a major role. Much more than just bare talent. Have you read a James Bond thriller recently? It's peurile but somehow caught the hoi polloi's fancy and the writer and publisher were off to the fair. Not to mention the subsequent success of the movie producers.

Much better books were written around that time but those writers never could afford to quit their day jobs. Think gangnam style dancing or hula hoops, neither of which had anything to do with talent, but were overnight sensations. If they had been books the authors would have kept on churning out follow-ups, but they weren't, so there was nothing to sustain the interest of the masses.
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Re: Magazine comedy articles

Unread post by cage » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:14 pm

Eddie, the wonderful thing about the English language is that it is a living thing with a life of its own.
It is going to keep changing and that may upset the purists.
Nothing stands still.

Lately I prefer audio books - gives the old book a bit more life. Perhaps you should get Marius to narrate a couple of yours ;)
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Unread post by Jean van der Riet » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:21 pm

Guys , please .

I asked for feedback on the laugh the minute factor of what I was trying to , almost like the Charlie Cooper articles in the Bike SA that wrote in his less than educated manner but afforded me so many smiles while reading his articles .

Thanks to everyone anyways .
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Unread post by Ugly Duckling » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:27 pm

Dammit Jean [-X
Must I repeat myself :lol:
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Unread post by Jean van der Riet » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:44 pm

Ugly Duckling wrote:
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Dammit Jean [-X
Must I repeat myself :lol:
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Yes yes , thanks buddy !
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Unread post by SlowApproach » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:50 pm

Keep doing what you're doing, Jean. The world is in sore need of genuine smiles and laughter, even if it isn't perfect. As someone used to say (I forget who): “Don't aim for perfection. Aim for 'better than yesterday'.”
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Unread post by Jean van der Riet » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:54 pm

SlowApproach wrote:
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Keep doing what you're doing, Jean. The world is in sore need of genuine smiles and laughter, even if it isn't perfect. As someone used to say (I forget who): “Don't aim for perfection. Aim for 'better than yesterday'.”
Thanks Slow , dreams become reality when intentions become actions , they say .
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Unread post by cage » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:02 pm

Jean, when you put yourself "out there" it's going to come with the good, the bad and the ugly.
Even the best will take a flogging, you have to take it on the chin, grow and move on.
If you enjoy doing something, why should you care what others think.

Look at this aunty, she's not good. Hell, she's terrible, but look at all the smiles she put on people's faces. :D

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Unread post by Jean van der Riet » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:17 pm

cage wrote:
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Jean, when you put yourself "out there" it's going to come with the good, the bad and the ugly.
Even the best will take a flogging, you have to take it on the chin, grow and move on.
If you enjoy doing something, why should you care what others think.

Look at this aunty, she's not good. Hell, she's terrible, but look at all the smiles she put on people's faces. :D

Thanks Cage . Appreciated !

Luckily my stint as a wanna be comedy writer is not that important . My day job ( if I may ) is as a contracted Tactical Team ( SWAT ) Commander for the British government working as security , risk and contingency manager within the British overseas territories that includes The Falklands , the British Virgin islands , the Cayman islands , the Turks & Caicos islands , Saint Helena and the island of Montserrat and I focus on airport safety and anti terrorism , customs and so on . Thank God .

From a aviation point of view they only use DASH 8's , Islanders and a few King Air's between the major airports for our operations .

And they take on an Afrikaans boy to work for them ! lol
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Unread post by Ugly Duckling » Mon Aug 19, 2019 9:21 pm

A P4 sandwich will brighten the mood of your detractors :lol:
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Unread post by GL » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:42 am

Jean - there are two schools of thought here:
1) The romantics who say that anything is OK as long as it is entertaining. Maybe Bike SA could get away with that.
2) The pragmatists who say that you have to do it right.
I guess I fall into the latter. I would refer you to the old Lennon McCartney song - "What would would you do if I sang out of tune? Would you stand up and walk out on me?"" - I cannot afford bad writing or out of tune humour, as most of my readers would walk out on me. The same as you have to be able to sing to get anywhere in the talent shows - even if Bob Dylan, Van Morrison etc would never have made it in those shows.
So I am afraid I disagree with your analogy. The feedback you have received here - which you asked for - is not a dick swinging competition by arrogant flying club members, but a genuine attempt to give you some guidance.
As a parting thought - if you want to be in the game - let alone taken seriously, get hold of Stephen Kings, 'On Writing."
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Unread post by Jean van der Riet » Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:18 am

GL wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:42 am
Jean - there are two schools of thought here:
1) The romantics who say that anything is OK as long as it is entertaining. Maybe Bike SA could get away with that.
2) The pragmatists who say that you have to do it right.
I guess I fall into the latter. I would refer you to the old Lennon McCartney song - "What would would you do if I sang out of tune? Would you stand up and walk out on me?"" - I cannot afford bad writing or out of tune humour, as most of my readers would walk out on me. The same as you have to be able to sing to get anywhere in the talent shows - even if Bob Dylan, Van Morrison etc would never have made it in those shows.
So I am afraid I disagree with your analogy. The feedback you have received here - which you asked for - is not a dick swinging competition by arrogant flying club members, but a genuine attempt to give you some guidance.
As a parting thought - if you want to be in the game - let alone taken seriously, get hold of Stephen Kings, 'On Writing."
Thanks Guy . Noted . I have to note that I did deliver some good work to SA Flyer also , after you tweaked them .
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Re: Magazine comedy articles

Unread post by Jack Welles » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:07 am

Hi there Jean, what you're trying to do is noted. Missed that when you first asked for a critique. By the way no one here was trying to nail you. Only saw people trying to help.

Now what you said is that you want to entertain as many people as possible, right? You want to leave folk out there with a smile?

Unfortunately every "mistake" loses a reader. Get it really right and you double your number of readers. Get it really wrong and you'll have no readers. That's the way it works. And what you want is readers, isn't it? To have as many people as possible enjoy your work? What that adds up to is that the better you do it, the more people will enjoy it.

Good luck going forward, it's a tough row to hoe ...
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