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Our creative criminals

Unread post by cage » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:17 pm

I thought I would start a thread that recognises exceptional initiative and creativity on behalf of our crims.
It will provide an opportunity to gripe but also a public info service about trends and what to look out for.
We've had a recent spike in break-ins as it seems some crime gangs are paying the area a visit.

The trend seems to show that old fashioned burglary and climbing in the windows in the dead of night is so yesterday or too much effort, possibly because South Africans are so security savvy.

The new trend is to try find a weak spot or to have someone let them in, and broad daylight is ok also.
We've seen them targeting standalone properties and complexes, particularly where is no manned security.
Too many people still have gates that can be lifted off the rails or are easily pushed open.
They seem able to find out if your security initiatives are broken - so possibly insider info as well.

A team hit a complex during the day and ransacked 4 houses, 2 which were occupied at the time.
It's no surprise our local trauma councillor has seen an uptick in demand.

We had fake cops get through our boom but security policy is to accompany any police so they made off when the van arrived.
(this is an old technique but it works).

The new one is they have a fake courier van and even some of your details and arrive for a delivery hoping to be let in.
10 points for effort.

You really have to be aware these days.
I am upgrading some of my security as a result.

If only this creativity and hard work could be channelled in other directions.
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Re: Our creative criminals

Unread post by zander » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:29 pm

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Unread post by V5 - LEO » Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:53 pm

cage wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 7:17 pm
I thought I would start a thread that recognises exceptional initiative and creativity on behalf of our crims.

If only this creativity and hard work could be channelled in other directions.
...if only, but a leopard never changes its spots, this thread is gonna go south quick :D or maybe not!
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Unread post by C Africa » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:05 am

Ok, here's another one. If someone asks you for R200 million to start a dairy farm? Don't give it to them, it is a scam!!!!



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Unread post by Walter105 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:32 am

C Africa wrote:
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Ok, here's another one. If someone asks you for R200 million to start a dairy farm? Don't give it to them, it is a scam!!!!



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Unread post by Walter105 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:35 am

In our complex they used a y-shaped twig, inserted between the top of the perimeter wall and the bottom wire of the electric fence and moved the wire upwards to just before it touches the next wire. Created a space barely 20cms wide where a guy was able to slide through.
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Unread post by richard C » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:42 am

Walter105 wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:32 am
C Africa wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 8:05 am
Ok, here's another one. If someone asks you for R200 million to start a dairy farm? Don't give it to them, it is a scam!!!!



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Unread post by Jack Welles » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:48 am

Sad result of lousy economic policies :evil: . There'd always be bad guys doing bad things but the huge unemployment rate really drives many to do things they otherwise wouldn't! Pity the average voter (actually most of us) tends towards identity politics 8-[
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Unread post by Roger » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:52 am

Jack, please let's stay away from the politics, we all know why the crime is happening. This thread is about the methods and means used by the criminals.
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Unread post by Fransw » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:13 pm

I know its not always possible, but try to keep a low profile. Criminals are after money and a flashy car or watch for examples attract a lot of attention. They will follow you to your neighborhood..Leave that Rolex in the safe and use it only to impress your quests at private dinner parties.

Many security awareness courses available. Be pro active..
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Unread post by Jack Welles » Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:44 pm

Roger wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:52 am
Jack, please let's stay away from the politics, we all know why the crime is happening. This thread is about the methods and means used by the criminals.
Sorry about that. Posted without thinking :oops:
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Unread post by cage » Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:01 pm

Fransw wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:13 pm
I know its not always possible, but try to keep a low profile. Criminals are after money and a flashy car or watch for examples attract a lot of attention. They will follow you to your neighborhood..Leave that Rolex in the safe and use it only to impress your quests at private dinner parties.

Many security awareness courses available. Be pro active..
More often than not they seem to have gotten insight into a property or someone. Too many of these crimes involve a lot of cash or jewellery on the premises or it coincides with dogs being locked up for the gardener or the gate/fence is broken.
Be aware who works for you, and also be a good employer.
If something breaks, fix it.

Something else to be aware, most gate intercoms (such as commax) have the opening logic in the intercom. All it takes is a standard hex key, pop the intercom off, short the wires and voila the gate opens.
Criminals know this, home owners notsomuch.
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Unread post by thelsa » Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:28 pm

The best 'Informers' are the refuse collectors. They patrol the suburbs. They know when you got a new TV, PC, Laptop, Hi-Fi, eectrical appliances etc because the boxes are put out with the wheelie-bins.
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Unread post by Jean Crous » Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:45 pm

thelsa wrote:
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The best 'Informers' are the refuse collectors. They patrol the suburbs. They know when you got a new TV, PC, Laptop, Hi-Fi, eectrical appliances etc because the boxes are put out with the wheelie-bins.
That gives me an idea,....have a box printed saying "Explosive booby traps to guard your property" . :twisted: I wonder what the refuse collector chatter will be.........
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Unread post by Fransw » Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:03 pm

cage wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:01 pm
Fransw wrote:
Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:13 pm
I know its not always possible, but try to keep a low profile. Criminals are after money and a flashy car or watch for examples attract a lot of attention. They will follow you to your neighborhood..Leave that Rolex in the safe and use it only to impress your quests at private dinner parties.

Many security awareness courses available. Be pro active..
More often than not they seem to have gotten insight into a property or someone. Too many of these crimes involve a lot of cash or jewellery on the premises or it coincides with dogs being locked up for the gardener or the gate/fence is broken.
Be aware who works for you, and also be a good employer.
If something breaks, fix it.

Something else to be aware, most gate intercoms (such as commax) have the opening logic in the intercom. All it takes is a standard hex key, pop the intercom off, short the wires and voila the gate opens.
Criminals know this, home owners notsomuch.
Yup, inside info must be the most common way I think.. Maybe only me but I'm an advocate for conservative living(the place where you sleep every night). A good example is billionaire business tycoon Dr Anton Rupert(rip) who lived his whole life in a "normal" house in Stellenbosch. There wasn't even a closed garage for his car..

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