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Soyuz MS-10 has launch failure -Astronaut & Cosmonaut make emergency landing.

Unread post by GRAHAMW » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:30 pm

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The search and rescue teams have reached the Soyuz spacecraft landing site and report that the two crew members are in good condition and are out of the capsule. Search and rescue teams are with the crew now.

Live coverage here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qr2Hq9HZI_s
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Unread post by Slam and Go » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:35 pm

And we worry about EFATO :shock:
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Unread post by rare bird » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:25 pm

as someone commented: "Congratulations on the first manned rocket flight direct to Kazakhstan"
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Unread post by Mfezi » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:39 pm

rare bird wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:25 pm
as someone commented: "Congratulations on the first manned rocket flight direct to Kazakhstan"
I thought all manned Russian spaceflights start and end in Kazakhstan. Or is the distinction here the "direct", as in normally you get to go around the Earth a bunch of times before landing back in Kazakhstan?
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Unread post by Mfezi » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:03 pm

Out of interest, I checked this out for myself, and it seems the first "manned rocket flight to Kazakhstan" would have been Vostok 4 in 1962 which launched on 12 August and landed on 15 August 1962. All the Vostok missions were launched from Baikonur and Vostok 1, 2 and 3 were all meant to land somewhere near Baikonur, but it appears hitting something the size of a country (or then, a given republic inside the USSR) after re-entry wasn't a very precise science. So, Vostok 1 landed South of Engels in what is today Russia, Vostok 2 landed not far from where Vostok 1 landed, also in what is today part of Russia, Vostok 3 landed in what is today part of Kyrgyzstan and, at last, Vostok 4 landed East of Baikonur inside Kazakhstan.
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Unread post by GRAHAMW » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:12 pm

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Russia has launched a criminal investigation into the failed launch of a Soyuz rocket which led to two astronauts having to make an emergency landing
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Unread post by Mfezi » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:40 pm

GRAHAMW wrote:
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Russia has launched a criminal investigation into the failed launch of a Soyuz rocket which led to two astronauts having to make an emergency landing
It should be noted that this is standard in Russia whenever negligence is a possibility - so they do this for almost all notable accidents (aviation and otherwise). It does not necessarily mean they know or suspect something. However, following the recent incident where someone drilled a hole in one of the Russian IST modules, coupled with the exceptional safety record of Soyuz, it is hardly surprising that they immediately launched a criminal investigation following today's events.
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Mfezi wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:03 pm
Out of interest, I checked this out for myself, and it seems the first "manned rocket flight to Kazakhstan" would have been Vostok 4 in 1962 which launched on 12 August and landed on 15 August 1962. All the Vostok missions were launched from Baikonur and Vostok 1, 2 and 3 were all meant to land somewhere near Baikonur, but it appears hitting something the size of a country (or then, a given republic inside the USSR) after re-entry wasn't a very precise science. So, Vostok 1 landed South of Engels in what is today Russia, Vostok 2 landed not far from where Vostok 1 landed, also in what is today part of Russia, Vostok 3 landed in what is today part of Kyrgyzstan and, at last, Vostok 4 landed East of Baikonur inside Kazakhstan.
very interesting!
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Re: Soyuz MS-10 has launch failure -Astronaut & Cosmonaut make emergency landing.

Unread post by Spoke Eagle » Fri Oct 12, 2018 5:37 am

Don't know much about this but at around 2.1 minutes it starts steering like a taxi. Must have been a wild ride!
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Spoke Eagle wrote:
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Don't know much about this but at around 2.1 minutes it starts steering like a taxi. Must have been a wild ride!
They said they were exposed to 7/8 g's
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Unread post by MadMacs » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:28 am

7 to 8 g's is chicken feed to them :D on one occasion the crew suffered 20 g and one of them apparently never recovered properly from the effects, I wonder what exactly?
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Mfezi wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:03 pm
Out of interest, I checked this out for myself, and it seems the first "manned rocket flight to Kazakhstan" would have been Vostok 4 in 1962 which launched on 12 August and landed on 15 August 1962. All the Vostok missions were launched from Baikonur and Vostok 1, 2 and 3 were all meant to land somewhere near Baikonur, but it appears hitting something the size of a country (or then, a given republic inside the USSR) after re-entry wasn't a very precise science. So, Vostok 1 landed South of Engels in what is today Russia, Vostok 2 landed not far from where Vostok 1 landed, also in what is today part of Russia, Vostok 3 landed in what is today part of Kyrgyzstan and, at last, Vostok 4 landed East of Baikonur inside Kazakhstan.
First sub orbital rocket flight direct to Kazakhstan?
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Unread post by MadMacs » Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:12 pm

Problem traced to a sensor that was damaged during assembly of the engine:

https://www.rt.com/rtmobile/news/latest/442887/html/
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Unread post by Mfezi » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:03 am

To add to the post by MadMacs, here is a spectacular video posted by Roscosmos of the launch up to the failure. Starting at 1:25 you can see how the one booster did not separate correctly. This appears to be a fairly simple problem to fix so flights may resume as early as next month:

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Unread post by MadMacs » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:27 am

So I guess hard hats are mandatory in that area :lol: I wonder what its 0 to 60 time is and does it go supersonic?
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