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Re: Pitts down?

Unread post by Sea Rescue » Tue Jan 29, 2019 6:24 pm

Hi Guys,
Jeepers !! conrods through the block "et al" - very good reason for "no-engine" and that very green soft patch would have attracted me FOR SURE !! A pity that the Pitts has a rather short fuselage - thus not much counterweight and with fixed undercarriage, to flip over in that "soft" patch is "easy-peasy" like the Kulula hosties like to say.

However the "soft patch" did it's job and the "driver" is O.K. - which means - "well done" Arnie - wipe the mud off your face and we hope you feel just fine within a "coupla" days !
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Re: Pitts down?

Unread post by Ryan Beeton » Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:08 pm

Great outcome! Well done Arnie. Cool head. That Pitts sinks like a brick and to put it down on that small field was remarkable.

Look forward to seeing you in the sky again Arnie.
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Re: Pitts down?

Unread post by southside » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:34 pm

I would guess that anyone flying a Pitts knows what they are doing...just my opinion, with a possible conrod through the crankcase, give or take a few variables the outcome is probably as good as could be...
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Re: Pitts down?

Unread post by Pete » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:40 pm

Well done Arnie and glad you OK! =D>
Will be interesting to hear what caused the Lycoming to put a leg out of bed? :shock:
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Re: Pitts down?

Unread post by Richard Smit » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:46 pm

Upwards and onwards!!
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Re: Pitts down?

Unread post by Mjprevot » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:04 pm

Segg wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:57 pm
There are two very nice holes in the engines crankcase, one with a conrod peaking out :?

Will be very keen to hear about the outcome of the engine strip down
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Re: Pitts down?

Unread post by jimdavis » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:09 am

I understand it was an EFATO and the pilot had very little height to play with.

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Unread post by richard C » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:11 am

Anybody know what the stall speed is of a Pitts such as that one ?

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Re: Pitts down?

Unread post by Sideslip » Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:40 am

richard C wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:11 am
Anybody know what the stall speed is of a Pitts such as that one ?

Thanks
52 knots/60 MPH for an S2B

https://eaglesport.org/wp-content/uploa ... 2b_poh.pdf

Interestingly the POH recomends an approach at 95MPH (normal approach and following an EFATO) so I suspect the sink rate at Vs x 1.3 is extremely high.
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Re: Pitts down?

Unread post by richard C » Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:28 am

Thanks Sideslip

I was just contemplating the ground-rush sensation of lobbing a short-wheel base aircraft like a Pitts onto uneven turf.

Has got to be one of life's less pleasant tasks to undertake. Like a fly aiming for the swat.
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Re: Pitts down?

Unread post by Tomcat1 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:53 pm

Sideslip wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:40 am
richard C wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:11 am
Anybody know what the stall speed is of a Pitts such as that one ?

Thanks
52 knots/60 MPH for an S2B

https://eaglesport.org/wp-content/uploa ... 2b_poh.pdf

Interestingly the POH recomends an approach at 95MPH (normal approach and following an EFATO) so I suspect the sink rate at Vs x 1.3 is extremely high.
With a wingspan of 6.1m, a take off weight of 737KG, a stall speed of 52 knots and looking at the damage around the cockpit area, I would say that Arnie did an EXCELLENT job of getting that bird down in that soft pitch and surviving with minor scrapes and bruises considering the Pitts would have a glide ratio of a brick =D> =D> =D>
I had a little control line Pitts and when the motor quit it was like it stopped mid air and fell out the sky #-o
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Re: Pitts down?

Unread post by MGR » Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:12 pm

Would going through a fence cause some of that damage....?
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Re: Pitts down?

Unread post by Spaceman8 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:38 pm

Well done Arnie!! Hope for a speedy recovery.

Just out of interest, does anyone know which airfield he experience the EFATO? :?:
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Re: Pitts down?

Unread post by Bearcat » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:39 pm

Spaceman8 wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:38 pm
Well done Arnie!! Hope for a speedy recovery.

Just out of interest, does anyone know which airfield he experience the EFATO? :?:
Not sure what you mean .. but Arnie would have taken off from Rand and the accident was in the GF
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Re: Pitts down?

Unread post by Spaceman8 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:19 am

Bearcat wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:39 pm
Spaceman8 wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:38 pm
Well done Arnie!! Hope for a speedy recovery.

Just out of interest, does anyone know which airfield he experience the EFATO? :?:
Not sure what you mean .. but Arnie would have taken off from Rand and the accident was in the GF
Aahh... so he just experienced an engine failure during his flight back to Rand, it wasn`t like he landed at like Vereeniging for instants and then encountered his EFATO from a take-off.
But thanks you Bearcat for the clarity :D
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