Gazelle down at Rand

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Gazelle down at Rand

Unread post by PJL » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:48 am

I believe a Gazelle chopper went down at Rand this morning!!!

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Re: Gazelle down at Rand

Unread post by cage » Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:50 am

looks like it rolled over.
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Re: Gazelle down at Rand

Unread post by cage » Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:09 pm

That's a fairly "new" aircraft to SA if I'm not mistaken.
Wonder if they had an issue or if the pilot was new to the type.
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Re: Gazelle down at Rand

Unread post by Ray W » Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:01 pm

Hope nobody was seriously hurt
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Re: Gazelle down at Rand

Unread post by PJL » Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:11 pm

Bearcat wrote on another blog

Gazelle.. 4 on board..all ok. Accident occured whilst manouvering whilst waiting to cross runway

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Re: Gazelle down at Rand

Unread post by cage » Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:29 pm

So foot trouble then or a guppy turn or the like gone a bit wrong?
Accidents happen but that's a bit bleak to fall over while crossing the runway.
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Re: Gazelle down at Rand

Unread post by Alouette » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:14 pm

The next thing you will hear is talk about fenestron stall, when there is no such thing.
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Re: Gazelle down at Rand

Unread post by vildwillie » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:19 pm

Alouette wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:14 pm
The next thing you will hear is talk about fenestron stall, when there is no such thing.
One thing comes to my mind possibly the skid hooked on a runway light and then it's possible that dynamic roll over followed just speculation
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Re: Gazelle down at Rand

Unread post by Peregrine » Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:59 pm

“Manoeuvring”. What was the wind?
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Re: Gazelle down at Rand

Unread post by Bearcat » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:00 pm

The Gazelle involved was this one
Seen here at Rand 12 Jan 2019
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Re: Gazelle down at Rand

Unread post by Piggy-Hawk » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:10 pm

I don't think a runway light caused it.

Whilst training, practicing autorotations in the circuit, I aborted due to a runway light being in my way.

After the instructor reprimanded me, shouting "YOU ALWAYS FLY THE F@#%NG AIRCRAFT" :lol: , he showed me that the runway lights bend like rubber, and he couldn't manage to hook it on the skids.

I was there last week and the wind was 8kts gusting 17, and on approach the wind direction suddenly changed from 10° to 330°. After overshooting the intended LZ it took some intense pedal work to move back to the helipad (out of wind).
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Re: Gazelle down at Rand

Unread post by Bearcat » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:23 pm

Aerospatiale SA-341 Gazelle ZU-RZM at Rand Airport FAGM
3 Feb 2019
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Re: Gazelle down at Rand

Unread post by cage » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:27 pm

Was it taking off or landing?
A nearby weather station recorded the following.
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(mph, midnight on the far left, 13h00 on the far right)

Hope that's more astute and helpful for you P ;)
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Re: Gazelle down at Rand

Unread post by Peregrine » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:41 pm

Yes, that’s more like your normal astute and helpful input thanks Cage.

So the worst wind in the late morning was likely to have been fairly steady NNW at up to about 12 mph. Probably not a prime suspect?
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Re: Gazelle down at Rand

Unread post by cage » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:48 pm

Peregrine wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:41 pm
Yes, that’s more like your normal astute and helpful input thanks Cage.

So the worst wind in the late morning was likely to have been fairly steady NNW at up to about 12 mph. Probably not a prime suspect?
If I was going to take a stab in the dark, I would suggest there is a possibility that being a new import there's a chance the PIC may have been a bit green on type. Could be completely wrong.
The runway is right near the pads, don't see why a lot of "manoeuvring" would be needed, you'd mostly just wait on the pad.
Besides, if after all these years tanglefoot hasn't snagged a skid around there, then it can't be that much of a risk ;)

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