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Re: California- Cessna 414 crashes into house 5 fatalities

Unread post by Breytie » Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:56 pm

For those that struggle to open the other sites, here is the YouTube clips I could find. Most others seem to be remakes of these.
If you find others of value, please let me know so I can add them

Long distance dash cam

Another dashcam

CCTV Engine sounds with some debris impact visuals

Another CCTV - audio only

Overhead aftermath video

Another overhead video
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Re: California- Cessna 414 crashes into house 5 fatalities

Unread post by No Fly No More » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:33 pm

OMG. What is it was intentional??? Remember the guy in the late 60's who deliberately flew his aerie into the flat of his ex-wife in the Northern Suburbs of Joburg.
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Re: California- Cessna 414 crashes into house 5 fatalities

Unread post by Jack Welles » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:04 pm

No Fly No More wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:33 pm
OMG. What is it was intentional??? Remember the guy in the late 60's who deliberately flew his aerie into the flat of his ex-wife in the Northern Suburbs of Joburg.
Well, it did burst into flames and come down as a ball of fire, as can be seen in the vids, so you decide :lol:
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Re: California- Cessna 414 crashes into house 5 fatalities

Unread post by No Fly No More » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:51 pm

Jack Welles wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:04 pm
No Fly No More wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:33 pm
OMG. What is it was intentional??? Remember the guy in the late 60's who deliberately flew his aerie into the flat of his ex-wife in the Northern Suburbs of Joburg.
Well, it did burst into flames and come down as a ball of fire, as can be seen in the vids, so you decide :lol:
Ja, well if it started falling apart due to the hectic kamikaze dive, it would/could catch fire?
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Re: California- Cessna 414 crashes into house 5 fatalities

Unread post by CWS » Wed Feb 06, 2019 6:07 pm

No Fly No More wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:51 pm
Jack Welles wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:04 pm
No Fly No More wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:33 pm
OMG. What is it was intentional??? Remember the guy in the late 60's who deliberately flew his aerie into the flat of his ex-wife in the Northern Suburbs of Joburg.
Well, it did burst into flames and come down as a ball of fire, as can be seen in the vids, so you decide :lol:
Ja, well if it started falling apart due to the hectic kamikaze dive, it would/could catch fire?
Seeing he was in the clag and when he broke out of the cloud base the plane was already burning and in pieces I would say your theory is probably a bit of a stretch
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Re: California- Cessna 414 crashes into house 5 fatalities

Unread post by Aquila » Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:02 pm

From Flight Safety Australia: https://www.flightsafetyaustralia.com/2 ... in-flight/
An aircraft that crashed after an apparent mid-air break-up is the subject of an airworthiness directive (AD) requiring 50-hourly inspections of its main spar cap.

About 1.50 pm on Sunday afternoon US west coast time (8.50 am Monday morning AEST) a Cessna 414A Chancellor crashed into a house in the Los Angeles suburb of Yorba Linda, after apparently breaking up in mid-air. The aircraft had recently taken off from Fullerton Municipal Airport in Los Angeles and was climbing through 7800 feet, according to news reports. Four people in the house and the pilot who was the only person on the plane, were killed.

The Orange County Register reported the Cessna was built in 1981 and flown by a 75-year-old private pilot who had bought the aircraft last year. Weather at the time was overcast with rain and westerly winds about 7 knots. Reports speak of one engine striking the house, the second engine landing on a road, and the fuselage coming to rest in the yard of another house. News footage shows part of a wing on a roadway.

The Cessna 400 series of light piston twins, which were made from 1962–1987 was the subject of an unusually stringent AD last year. US Federal Aviation Administration AD 2018-03-03 requires repeated inspections of the left and the right forward lower carry-through spar cap for cracks and replacing the carry-through spar if cracks are found. Inspections were to be carried out within 25 flying hours for some 400 series models, or within 50 hours for others. For low-hours aircraft in the 400-series inspections are required before 15,000 hours.

The AD goes on to impose a stringent service requirement: ‘If no cracks are found, repetitively thereafter inspect at intervals not to exceed 50 hours time-in-service.’

As a state of design airworthiness directive AD 2018-03-03 applies to the 110 or so Cessna 401-425 aircraft on the Australian register. The AD affects 2147 aeroplanes on the US register. The US National Transportation Safety Board is investigating.
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Re: California- Cessna 414 crashes into house 5 fatalities

Unread post by dany » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:00 pm

Just read this now. Is it the same accident,look like it.

https://news.yahoo.com/pilot-deadly-cal ... 27280.html
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Unread post by GRAHAMW » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:24 pm

And the plot thickens

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Unread post by Ugly Duckling » Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:29 pm

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Re: California- Cessna 414 crashes into house 5 fatalities

Unread post by cage » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:26 am

Ugly Duckling wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:29 pm
Some sort of farewell message :shock:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 0778128986
Just looks like a typical rage quit.
You can't draw that conclusion, it would seem something on FB upset him, without understanding what it is some bizarre speculation to put 1 and 1 together and end up with 5. Especially since the post preceded the event by 5 days.

Making an aircraft breakup in midair is also really lateral way of trying to kill yourself.
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Re: California- Cessna 414 crashes into house 5 fatalities

Unread post by Ugly Duckling » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:07 am

cage wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:26 am
Ugly Duckling wrote:
Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:29 pm
Some sort of farewell message :shock:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 0778128986
Just looks like a typical rage quit.
You can't draw that conclusion, it would seem something on FB upset him, without understanding what it is some bizarre speculation to put 1 and 1 together and end up with 5. Especially since the post preceded the event by 5 days.

Making an aircraft breakup in midair is also really lateral way of trying to kill yourself.
Further down his page there are more indicators of a troubled man
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 0778128986
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Re: California- Cessna 414 crashes into house 5 fatalities

Unread post by cage » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:56 am

Just seems like a nutter that had no respect for aviation and statistics caught up to him.
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Re: California- Cessna 414 crashes into house 5 fatalities

Unread post by V5 - LEO » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:04 pm

...sorry off topic, but this oke looks exactly like the guy from "Vegas Rat Rods" - scary.
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Re: California- Cessna 414 crashes into house 5 fatalities

Unread post by Jasondn78 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:14 am

So, are we saying that the pilot flew into IFR, got disoriented, plane went into a spin and started breaking up mid-air? Break up could be the result of cracks in the wing spar and as the aircraft missed wing spar inspections, it could have been avoided.

Or....

He deliberately put the plane into a dive and it broke up in the air due to overspeed & cracked wing spars.

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