Gyro emergency landing - one person dead

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Gyro emergency landing - one person dead

Unread post by Expilot » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:18 pm

Happened at Vaal Marina earlier today- collided with person on ground during emergency landing
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Re: Gyro emergency landing - one person dead

Unread post by crazydoc » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:55 pm

:shock: :shock: . Not good. Any more detail?
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Re: Gyro emergency landing - one person dead

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Re: Gyro emergency landing - one person dead

Unread post by cage » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:01 pm

One of the problems with the vaal, and other water features, is that guys love flying low over it. Limits choice.
Regs state you need to not be a danger to people or property, unfortunately not in this instance.
I see okes in gyros flying seriously low over busy beaches, perhaps with a bit too much confidence in its recovery abilities.
(Was this one a local at panorama by any chance?)
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Re: Gyro emergency landing - one person dead

Unread post by Burner » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:03 pm

Very sad... terribly ironic that the gyrocopter was busy scattering someone elses ashes as the time.
https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa ... s-19225524
Johannesburg - A man was killed when he was hit by a gyrocopter making an emergency landing at the Vaal Marina in Vereeniging on Sunday, paramedics said.

Netcare 911 paramedics responded just after noon to reports of an aircraft crash on the shore of the Vaal Marina next to the R54 in Gauteng, Netcare 911 spokesman Shawn Herbst said.

"Reports from the scene indicate that a gyrocopter collided with an elderly male believed to be in his 70s while trying to perform an emergency landing. The patient was assessed on [the] scene by a Netcare 911 emergency care practitioner and found to have no signs of life and declared deceased on the scene."

The circumstances leading up to the incident were unknown, but police were on the scene and had secured the area for South African Civil Aviation Authority investigators, Herbst said.

In another statement, ER24 spokesman Werner Vermaak said the man was killed by a gyrocopter at the Vaal Marina in Vereeniging.

"Paramedics from ER24, Midvaal fire, and other EMS arrived on the scene where they found an elderly man [who] was apparently killed by a gyrocopter. Sadly, due to his extensive injuries, there was nothing that could be done for him and he was declared dead on the scene.

"It is understood from bystanders that members of a family scattered ashes of a loved one from the gyrocopter when it allegedly made an emergency landing on the bank. Other members were standing on the bank at the time. The elderly man was apparently struck by its blades as it made the emergency landing," Vermaak said.
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Re: Gyro emergency landing - one person dead

Unread post by Spoke Eagle » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:27 pm

Wonder if the urn went into the prop? Or something else related to the exercise? Thinking of the guy that tied a flag to his microlight to commemorate his pilot friend thst died.
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Re: Gyro emergency landing - one person dead

Unread post by dale » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:37 pm

Spoke Eagle wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:27 pm
Wonder if the urn went into the prop? Or something else related to the exercise? Thinking of the guy that tied a flag to his microlight to commemorate his pilot friend thst died.
Or the ashes into the carb?
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Re: Gyro emergency landing - one person dead

Unread post by Sands » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:30 pm

Guys, this is very sad. Condolences to the family.
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Re: Gyro emergency landing - one person dead

Unread post by Ugly Duckling » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:15 pm

dale wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:37 pm
Spoke Eagle wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:27 pm
Wonder if the urn went into the prop? Or something else related to the exercise? Thinking of the guy that tied a flag to his microlight to commemorate his pilot friend thst died.


Or the ashes into the carb?
Happened to a trike at Springs years ago. He was the last aircraft in the memorial fly past. We used runway 32. Has the trike crossed the threshold the passenger in rear seat opened the box overboard and the ash clogged the air filters. The pilot landed on 34 without incident.
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Re: Gyro emergency landing - one person dead

Unread post by jimdavis » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:36 pm

Ash scattering seems to be a jinxed operation. I have done it only twice and both flights had unforeseen consequences. They were far from normal or pleasant.

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Re: Gyro emergency landing - one person dead

Unread post by bobthebuilder » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:27 pm

What a tragic event. I really feel for the pilot who obviously had good intentions, as well as the family of the deceased.

What are the possible implications regarding an accident like this?

Things that spring to mind (without the facts):

1) A culpable homicide charge from the state?

2) Probably a claim against the pilot from the victims family?

3) If he had third party insurance such as the policy offered by DJA, would this assist, given that he may have flown over an "assembly of persons" which is deemed to be illegal?

4) Would the pilot lose his license over this, or what would the CAA's stance be?

5) If the accident happened on a runway, and there was one in that area, then things may be rather different for the pilot.
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Unread post by vildwillie » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:48 pm

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Re: Gyro emergency landing - one person dead

Unread post by Arch » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:10 pm

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Re: Gyro emergency landing - one person dead

Unread post by Tim » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:25 pm

bobthebuilder wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:27 pm
What a tragic event. I really feel for the pilot who obviously had good intentions, as well as the family of the deceased.

What are the possible implications regarding an accident like this?

Things that spring to mind (without the facts):

1) A culpable homicide charge from the state?

2) Probably a claim against the pilot from the victims family?

3) If he had third party insurance such as the policy offered by DJA, would this assist, given that he may have flown over an "assembly of persons" which is deemed to be illegal?

4) Would the pilot lose his license over this, or what would the CAA's stance be?

5) If the accident happened on a runway, and there was one in that area, then things may be rather different for the pilot.
Are these meant to be rhetoric questions? I am asking as the answers to your questions are mostly self-evident. If not, we might be able to assist with best-guess answers to each of them.

Just one correction on the assumption on your question 3: I am not aware that the pilot flew over an assembly of persons. An assembly of persons as per the aviation legislation is like 13,000 people swimming the Midmar Dam, or a stadium filled with people. Just a few people do not qualify as assembly.

Overflying open-air assemblies of people is not illegal as such, but must be conducted at 1,000 FT AGL (CAR 2011: Part 91.06.32 1a).

The rules for flying in the vicinity of people in general were already mentioned by Cage on page 1 of this thread (refer CAR 2011" Part 91.06.32 1b). But just to repeat: If you fly below 500 FT AGL you have to be sure that you can do an emergency landing without causing harm to people on the ground.
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Re: Gyro emergency landing - one person dead

Unread post by jimdavis » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:46 pm

One has to ask whether it was really an engine failure, or perhaps a low fly past to salute the deceased whose ashes he was scattering.

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