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Command upgrade - Sim Evaluation

Unread post by Airwayfreak » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:25 am

Anybody remember what failures were thrown at them during their command upgrade sim evaluation. I remember having an engine start error, a generator failure and a yaw dampener failure.
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Re: Command upgrade - Sim Evaluation

Unread post by sparky1608 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:06 am

I had the following:
Hung start/Hot Start
On initial taxi a DI or Compass failure
Generator Failure
Comms failure
Missed app due to low cloud followed by a diversion
Engine Fire
Electrical fire

Not all at once but all within the 4 hour evaluation

Hope this helps
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Re: Command upgrade - Sim Evaluation

Unread post by Airwayfreak » Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:18 am

sparky1608 wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:06 am
I had the following:
Hung start/Hot Start
On initial taxi a DI or Compass failure
Generator Failure
Comms failure
Missed app due to low cloud followed by a diversion
Engine Fire
Electrical fire

Not all at once but all within the 4 hour evaluation

Hope this helps
Thank you. What aircraft ?
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Re: Command upgrade - Sim Evaluation

Unread post by sparky1608 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:49 pm

This was for the C208
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Re: Command upgrade - Sim Evaluation

Unread post by Jeffvh » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:53 pm

The flying part is rarely the fail point it's more often than not lack of knowledge on laws and awops. As mentioned above its pretty much dead on, if its multi, obviously will be engine failure/fire and asymmetric approaches with go a missed approach and a single engine landing.
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Re: Command upgrade - Sim Evaluation

Unread post by Burner » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:11 pm

I would also add that the testing officer/examiner will be looking at how you split tasks, decision making, assess the bigger picture, etc. What often tends to happen with new P1s, is they fall into the trap of wanting to do everything themselves. Fly, talk to ATC, pull check lists out, run the RMM, brief the P2, etc.

As a commander, when anything goes wrong, stabilize the aircraft, make sure you are clear of terrain and loosely pointed in the right direction, then hand over the flying. Take a step back, assess the situation in its entirety, unless there is serious imminent danger (fire, smoke, unable to maintain after power loss), create time for yourself. Ask for radar vectors for X track nms, enter the hold, etc. I've never been criticized in an OPC for taking too long to start an approach, following a failure where there wasn't imminent danger. On the reverse, I've been pressured in the sim to start the approach, and in the process not run all the associated checklists in their entirety.

As JeffVh mentions, the actual flying the aircraft is rarely the reason for not passing a command assessment. The tolerances are exactly the same for a P1 or P2.

All the best with the command assessment.
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Re: Command upgrade - Sim Evaluation

Unread post by Airwayfreak » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:25 pm

Burner wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:11 pm
All the best with the command assessment.
Thanks Burner, but I have retired for a while now. My only command upgrade may be for a Sling or something smaller. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just heard a horror story for a 737 command upgrade and was wondering how upgrades work in SA. All my command upgrades were in the US and UK

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