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Re: Stored airliners at JNB

Unread post by Globemaster » Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:48 pm

Here are some SAA planes standing
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Re: Stored airliners at JNB

Unread post by African Flyer » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:14 pm

Arik Air, 3 Express planes. Who do the 3 aircraft to the left of the Express Q400 belong to?
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Re: Stored airliners at JNB

Unread post by 131sixfive » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:00 pm

Looks like 2x CR2 and a DH4, probably more of the SAX fleet.

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Re: Stored airliners at JNB

Unread post by marius scheepers » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:38 pm

What i do find strange is looking at the run up bay, is that just ageing infrastructure or vandalism(i marked it with red boxes), apologies for going off track here.
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Re: Stored airliners at JNB

Unread post by evanb » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:48 pm

marius scheepers wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:38 pm
What i do find strange is looking at the run up bay, is that just ageing infrastructure or vandalism(i marked it with red boxes), apologies for going off track here.
The fencing was originally there to stop people falling into the engine run-up bay (the sides are steep), but since the surrounding area doesn't allow unauthorized access anymore that fencing isn't necessary.
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Re: Stored airliners at JNB

Unread post by markpat92 » Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:22 pm

I believe one was those SAA aircraft is the old ZS-SLA, an old A342 that is now used as a cabin trainer.
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Re: Stored airliners at JNB

Unread post by Richard Smit » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:32 pm

evanb wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:48 pm
marius scheepers wrote:
Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:38 pm
What i do find strange is looking at the run up bay, is that just ageing infrastructure or vandalism(i marked it with red boxes), apologies for going off track here.
The fencing was originally there to stop people falling into the engine run-up bay (the sides are steep), but since the surrounding area doesn't allow unauthorized access anymore that fencing isn't necessary.
Then, much like an offending eye should be plucked out (A bit harsh, but the desert heat does that to people), the unmaintained (eyesore) fence should be removed.
Or maintained.

I always appreciate your positivity evanb, but in this case, I REALLY think it’s a matter of Hakuna Matata.
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Re: Stored airliners at JNB

Unread post by evanb » Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:29 pm

Richard Smit wrote:
Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:32 pm
Then, much like an offending eye should be plucked out (A bit harsh, but the desert heat does that to people), the unmaintained (eyesore) fence should be removed.
Or maintained.

I always appreciate your positivity evanb, but in this case, I REALLY think it’s a matter of Hakuna Matata.
Fair enough, but the fencing at SAAT has been like that ever since I can remember ...
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Re: Stored airliners at JNB

Unread post by gregdeklerk » Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:31 am

Apart from the SAA cabin trainer, which planes are the other 2 SAA airbuses?
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Re: Stored airliners at JNB

Unread post by trees » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:05 am

ZS-SXH was retired in 2017 and is stored in the run up bay. The -600 next to the Arik 737 is ZS-SNB, also withdrawn from service.
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Re: Stored airliners at JNB

Unread post by Joker11 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:16 am

trees wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:05 am
ZS-SXH was retired in 2017 and is stored in the run up bay. The -600 next to the Arik 737 is ZS-SNB, also withdrawn from service.
Wow. First A340-600 withdrawn from service and why? Any idea where this plane is going and what will its replacement be?
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Re: Stored airliners at JNB

Unread post by trees » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:30 pm

ZS-SNA and SNB have been withdrawn. Delivered in 2002 they are getting old now and are early models which have heavier wings than the others. There was a rumour they were going to Global but I suspect its just that.
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Re: Stored airliners at JNB

Unread post by FoxTROT » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:19 pm

trees wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:30 pm
ZS-SNA and SNB have been withdrawn. Delivered in 2002 they are getting old now and are early models which have heavier wings than the others. There was a rumour they were going to Global but I suspect its just that.
According to FR24, ZS-SNC doesn’t seem to have flown since mid November 2018 either
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Re: Stored airliners at JNB

Unread post by evanb » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:54 pm

Joker11 wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:16 am
trees wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:05 am
ZS-SXH was retired in 2017 and is stored in the run up bay. The -600 next to the Arik 737 is ZS-SNB, also withdrawn from service.
Wow. First A340-600 withdrawn from service and why? Any idea where this plane is going and what will its replacement be?
SXH is an A340-300, not a -600. It is the oldest A340 that arrived second-hand from Iberia. By comparison, it's 21 years old, whereas the youngest new build A340 is 13 years old.

The replacement was new A330-300s.
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Re: Stored airliners at JNB

Unread post by HJK 414 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:41 pm

evanb wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:54 pm

SXH is an A340-300, not a -600. It is the oldest A340 that arrived second-hand from Iberia. By comparison, it's 21 years old, whereas the youngest new build A340 is 13 years old.

The replacement was new A330-300s.

Hi Evanb

Interesting ......

One wonders whether the added lease cost for the 330's could have been avoided by using her for a few more years
The "extra" fuel probably costs less than the extra lease value.

21 years probably not mandatory retirement.
Fuel consumption ?
Route restrictions / Capacity ?
Maintenance reserve "eaten" up ?

Or is she waiting to go to another owner for the last 5 to 7 years of her life ?

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