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Re: Avcom losing valuable contributors.

Unread post by Johan Swakopmund » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:46 am

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I have asked numerous times to have my name changed to my real name.
If i make a comment people will know who i am.
It seems to be impossible.
should i just register as a new member.
Even asked Moderators without any feedback

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Re: Avcom losing valuable contributors.

Unread post by Multirotordronepilot » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:48 am

Yes the Cemair debacle contained some extreme levels of abuse and very questionable remarks from some insiders specifically linked to one side of the affair. It had me withdraw from even opening the thread from a point onwards. So I agree with you on your statement.
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Re: Avcom losing valuable contributors.

Unread post by Volo » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:57 am

Not knowing the history of the creation of AVCOM I can only assume that Peudonyms were encouraged or mandated from the start for posters to make comments and statements that they would otherwise not make if their identity was out there for all to see . Perhaps the administrators could enlighten me and others ? I do not mind if everyone knows that my name is Dave Mortimer because I am happy to stand by whatever I post .
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Unread post by Volo » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:58 am

Add an S to pseudonyms - thanks
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Re: Avcom losing valuable contributors.

Unread post by Airwayfreak » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:36 am

Volo wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:57 am
Not knowing the history of the creation of AVCOM I can only assume that Peudonyms were encouraged or mandated from the start for posters to make comments and statements that they would otherwise not make if their identity was out there for all to see . Perhaps the administrators could enlighten me and others ? I do not mind if everyone knows that my name is Dave Mortimer because I am happy to stand by whatever I post .
I would think that many professional pilots would not want their real identities exposed. I'm past that so I have no problem.
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Re: Avcom losing valuable contributors.

Unread post by Bugs » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:48 am

I think a way around this is the MODERATORS do a progamme to allow personal details such as name and maybe contact details of the Pseudonyms on the bottom of each post or below the Pseudonyms name.
I am sure with technology of today this is achievable.
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Re: Avcom losing valuable contributors.

Unread post by cage » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:55 am

Airwayfreak wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:36 am
Volo wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:57 am
Not knowing the history of the creation of AVCOM I can only assume that Peudonyms were encouraged or mandated from the start for posters to make comments and statements that they would otherwise not make if their identity was out there for all to see . Perhaps the administrators could enlighten me and others ? I do not mind if everyone knows that my name is Dave Mortimer because I am happy to stand by whatever I post .
I would think that many professional pilots would not want their real identities exposed. I'm past that so I have no problem.
This topic pops it's head up from time to time. A simple search should find a history of the concepts.
This tends to happen after some contentious topics that got a bit out of hand.
No disrespect meant, but often posts are based on emotion or a "belief" where there is little to validate the concept, and in these instances some seem to run out of the ability to either put forward their point in a balanced or objective manner and then resort to playing the man or by trying to dismiss commentary based on the "I am more experienced than you" methodology.

Anyone, whether for or against a point should be able to justify a position logically and rationally.
When unable to do so, this usually ends up with offence being taken and complaining to mommy that the other kiddies aren't playing nice ;)
Personally, I have failed dismally on some occasions, so will work on that but it is important to remember that this is the nature of an online forum, something we attend voluntarily.
Complaining about it won't change the ecosystem, nor blaming the poor mods that take a beating daily.
Accept it for what it is and adapt or don't take part.
We live in divisive times, where no one wants to believe anything they see unless it agrees with their own beliefs.
If you need a reset on how civilised avcom actually is, go spend some time following twitter and even facebook (where actual names are used (they could also be fake, so don't assume because you see a name it is real)).
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Re: Avcom losing valuable contributors.

Unread post by Whirly » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:02 am

Leave it be, we have been over this time and time again. AvCom has been around for 15+ years and we have lost and gained members all the time. Nobody is irreplaceable (although some might think they are! :roll: ). Nothing stops someone from registering using a bogus name, the mods and administrators don't have time to police all this. Eventually we all know who the real persons are.

If you don't like what someone posts or don't like a thread, move along swiftly, you are not being forced to read it.

Some people need to get over themselves. :roll:

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Re: Avcom losing valuable contributors.

Unread post by Multirotordronepilot » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:02 am

cage wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:55 am
Airwayfreak wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:36 am
Volo wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:57 am

No disrespect meant, but often posts are based on emotion or a "belief" where there is little to validate the concept, and in these instances some seem to run out of the ability to either put forward their point in a balanced or objective manner and then resort to playing the man or by trying to dismiss commentary based on the "I am more experienced than you" methodology.


I 100% agree with this opinion. Well put sir !!!
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Re: Avcom losing valuable contributors.

Unread post by Jack Welles » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:30 am

While I post under ALL my names :lol: I'm sure there are, for example, working airline pilots that wouldn't want to post for professional reasons if their names were bandied about in public. Others may own businesses that could be adversely affected. It does allow some to express themselves more freely than they would otherwise do and that can only be good thing.
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Re: Avcom losing valuable contributors.

Unread post by PJL » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:35 am

johnythelaw wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:46 am
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I have asked numerous times to have my name changed to my real name.
If i make a comment people will know who i am.
It seems to be impossible.
should i just register as a new member.
Even asked Moderators without any feedback

regards

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Johan every year there is a window to change your name and I pretty sure it is coming up again shortly. You need to place your request during this period and it will be done with pleasure. :D

Avcom don't allow a person to have more than one handle and if it is pointed out to then, and verified, all the names relating to that person will be banned.

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Re: Avcom losing valuable contributors.

Unread post by Volo » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:44 am

Self correction before the grammar police jump on me the word is pseudonym
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Re: Avcom losing valuable contributors.

Unread post by Whirly » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:49 am

Volo wrote:
Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:44 am
Self correction before the grammar police jump on me the word is pseudonym
You could always just edit your posts. :D

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Unread post by SlowApproach » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:50 am

My "real name" is Wooly Cockburn. (Now do you see why I don't want to use it here? :lol:)
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Unread post by jimdavis » Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:06 am

Yep, we have been down this road many times - but that doesn't make the status quo the best option.

Almost every bit of the rudeness and aggression on Avcom would be toned down if we all knew who it was. It's like road rage, you can scream and curse from the safety and anonymity of your locked car when someone cuts you off. But if that happened in the flying club both parties would be apologising for getting in the way or the other.

I think pseudonyms stink and are cowardly. Business owners who are polite and friendly on Avcom can only enhance their businesses. But I do agree that employed airline pilots might not be able to express their views freely. Simple - let them keep their pseudonyms with (COM) in brackets after their names - then we all know that they have a good reason for hiding.

But for the rest, people who haven't got the guts to put their names to their opinions, don't deserve to be taken seriously.

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