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Good day fellow Aviators
I’m about to start my CPL and was curious on how to get my license without breaking the bank ,in record time and hopefully some pocket friendly hire and fly places around JHB .
Thanks in advance
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Smaller airfields and NTCA aircraft are generally lower cost than Piper/Cessna.
Check Panorama, Springs, Rhino Park etc..
Also check the diesel C172 think there are some at Rand.

My 2c is to enjoy the hour building and get some diverse experience vs rushing through it, eg. Landing on dirt/grass strips, narrow, wide, trip down to the coast.
(Take an instructor with if you if are unsure or new to something, i.e grass strip)

100 hours of PIC is plenty time to learn bad behaviors so make sure you keep up the standards or the Instrument rating becomes a challenge
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And I often say, if you feel comfortable with the aircraft and field, (you can go half moon or better) do some hour building at night, as quite a few contract companies offering those entry jobs do not fly at night. I know plenty with the hours for ATPL but still need to go and hire and fly to do night hours...
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lukh36260@gmail.com wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:42 pm Good day fellow Aviators
I’m about to start my CPL and was curious on how to get my license without breaking the bank ,in record time and hopefully some pocket friendly hire and fly places around JHB .
Thanks in advance
What is your current status? Ab Initio? SPL? PPL? If PPL what is your Total PIC time? Where do you live?
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Good day
I have my PPL and night rating ,I’m not really sure how many PIC time I have ,My logbook is at my flight school.I live in johannesburg I do my training at rand airport
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JCA wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:02 pm
lukh36260@gmail.com wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:42 pm Good day fellow Aviators
I’m about to start my CPL and was curious on how to get my license without breaking the bank ,in record time and hopefully some pocket friendly hire and fly places around JHB .
Thanks in advance
What is your current status? Ab Initio? SPL? PPL? If PPL what is your Total PIC time? Where do you live?
Good day .I have my PPL and NR .Im not really sure on my PIC time my logbook is at my flight school .I live in Johannesburg and do my training at rand airport
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Phugoid wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:28 am Smaller airfields and NTCA aircraft are generally lower cost than Piper/Cessna.
Check Panorama, Springs, Rhino Park etc..
Also check the diesel C172 think there are some at Rand.

My 2c is to enjoy the hour building and get some diverse experience vs rushing through it, eg. Landing on dirt/grass strips, narrow, wide, trip down to the coast.
(Take an instructor with if you if are unsure or new to something, i.e grass strip)

100 hours of PIC is plenty time to learn bad behaviors so make sure you keep up the standards or the Instrument rating becomes a challenge
Good day .I checked Panorama, Springs & rhino park so far and their rates we're more or less around the same rate at my school .I’m curious on the NTCA aircraft ,would I need to do a conversion and I’ve been surfing the web trying to look for NTCA aircraft that offer hour building around JHB I haven’t been lucky .

Thanks for the insight
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propstrap wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:03 pm And I often say, if you feel comfortable with the aircraft and field, (you can go half moon or better) do some hour building at night, as quite a few contract companies offering those entry jobs do not fly at night. I know plenty with the hours for ATPL but still need to go and hire and fly to do night hours...
Good day .hour building during night time is cheaper ?
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lukh36260@gmail.com wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:41 am Good day .I checked Panorama, Springs & rhino park so far and their rates we're more or less around the same rate at my school .I’m curious on the NTCA aircraft ,would I need to do a conversion and I’ve been surfing the web trying to look for NTCA aircraft that offer hour building around JHB I haven’t been lucky .

Thanks for the insight
Yes you would need to do a convex and have it added to your license in order to fly PIC
What are you currently flying?

Mid 2023 there was about a 200 rand difference per hour between a sling 2 and a c172

I never used them but Kroon airfield at one point had a Savanah which was for hire and fly
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Phugoid wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:23 am
lukh36260@gmail.com wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:41 am Good day .I checked Panorama, Springs & rhino park so far and their rates we're more or less around the same rate at my school .I’m curious on the NTCA aircraft ,would I need to do a conversion and I’ve been surfing the web trying to look for NTCA aircraft that offer hour building around JHB I haven’t been lucky .

Thanks for the insight
Yes you would need to do a convex and have it added to your license in order to fly PIC
What are you currently flying?

Mid 2023 there was about a 200 rand difference per hour between a sling 2 and a c172

I never used them but Kroon airfield at one point had a Savanah which was for hire and fly
Currently I fly PIC on the PA28A and c172
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lukh36260@gmail.com wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:41 am
Phugoid wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:28 am Smaller airfields and NTCA aircraft are generally lower cost than Piper/Cessna.
Check Panorama, Springs, Rhino Park etc..
Also check the diesel C172 think there are some at Rand.

My 2c is to enjoy the hour building and get some diverse experience vs rushing through it, eg. Landing on dirt/grass strips, narrow, wide, trip down to the coast.
(Take an instructor with if you if are unsure or new to something, i.e grass strip)

100 hours of PIC is plenty time to learn bad behaviors so make sure you keep up the standards or the Instrument rating becomes a challenge
Good day .I checked Panorama, Springs & rhino park so far and their rates we're more or less around the same rate at my school .I’m curious on the NTCA aircraft ,would I need to do a conversion and I’ve been surfing the web trying to look for NTCA aircraft that offer hour building around JHB I haven’t been lucky .

Thanks for the insight
Hi

JFA have Sling2 and a Sling4 , yes rating required , maybe consider doing your tailwheel rating , good experience .Consider flying from smaller fields (panorama etc ) you will be exposed to many like mined pilots and again good experience ( unmanned joining etc ) mt 2c
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lukh36260@gmail.com wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:29 am Good day
I have my PPL and night rating ,I’m not really sure how many PIC time I have ,My logbook is at my flight school.I live in johannesburg I do my training at rand airport
Bit of a thread drift here but I strongly suggest(if you want to make a career out of it) you get an electronic logbook going as well. Saves you a lot of time in the long run with applications and logbook summaries.

I would also recommend doing as much of your hour building at night as you will require 100 hours PIC or co-pilot night time for your ATP.

These hours can be tricky to get in the beginning of one's career.
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lukh36260@gmail.com wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 2:45 pm
Phugoid wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:23 am
lukh36260@gmail.com wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:41 am Good day .I checked Panorama, Springs & rhino park so far and their rates we're more or less around the same rate at my school .I’m curious on the NTCA aircraft ,would I need to do a conversion and I’ve been surfing the web trying to look for NTCA aircraft that offer hour building around JHB I haven’t been lucky .

Thanks for the insight
Yes you would need to do a convex and have it added to your license in order to fly PIC
What are you currently flying?

Mid 2023 there was about a 200 rand difference per hour between a sling 2 and a c172

I never used them but Kroon airfield at one point had a Savanah which was for hire and fly
Currently I fly PIC on the PA28A and c172
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lukh36260@gmail.com wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 2:45 pm
Phugoid wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:23 am
lukh36260@gmail.com wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:41 am Good day .I checked Panorama, Springs & rhino park so far and their rates we're more or less around the same rate at my school .I’m curious on the NTCA aircraft ,would I need to do a conversion and I’ve been surfing the web trying to look for NTCA aircraft that offer hour building around JHB I haven’t been lucky .

Thanks for the insight
Yes you would need to do a convex and have it added to your license in order to fly PIC
What are you currently flying?

Mid 2023 there was about a 200 rand difference per hour between a sling 2 and a c172

I never used them but Kroon airfield at one point had a Savanah which was for hire and fly
Currently I fly PIC on the PA28A and c172
Hi My advise is try using these hour building hours wisely , try getting the best value ,so some nice LONG cross country's , night flying , tailwheel rating , etc etc , again my2c
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Alan stewart wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:31 pm
lukh36260@gmail.com wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 2:45 pm
Phugoid wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:23 am Yes you would need to do a convex and have it added to your license in order to fly PIC
What are you currently flying?

Mid 2023 there was about a 200 rand difference per hour between a sling 2 and a c172

I never used them but Kroon airfield at one point had a Savanah which was for hire and fly
Currently I fly PIC on the PA28A and c172
Hi My advise is try using these hour building hours wisely , try getting the best value ,so some nice LONG cross country's , night flying , tailwheel rating , etc etc , again my2c
Agree with the TW rating, fun and challenging but improves your skills immensely
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