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Re: SAA after Business rescue

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snoopy wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:22 am Very interesting read that includes the shenanigans of SAA and what they got up to with SA tax payer money, to get to where SAA regurgitated is today.

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People employed by the state who abuse public funds entrusted to them by tax payers, should be...
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Without repercussions for these kind of shenanigans with public funds,it will just happen again and again and get worse and worse because the gig pays well and there is no real accountability, and that applies to all state "companies". Even municipalities these days want to be called "business partners"... :roll:

No wonder SA is a failing state.
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Snoopy - I would say on balance no one is listrning.
As I have observed the count is roundabout 5 individuals in the entire country who have anything to say about this travesty that is the attempted resurrection of this proverbial Dead Horse with your and my Tax money .
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https://www.travelnews.co.za/article/sa ... -route-drc

Starting flights to Lubumbashi on November 1st
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African Flyer wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 3:10 pm https://www.travelnews.co.za/article/sa ... -route-drc

Starting flights to Lubumbashi on November 1st
Yip, so is CAA Congo, with an A330.

Maybe a bit sooner, going on to FIH.
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SandPiper wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:59 pm
African Flyer wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2024 3:10 pm https://www.travelnews.co.za/article/sa ... -route-drc

Starting flights to Lubumbashi on November 1st
Yip, so is CAA Congo, with an A330.

Maybe a bit sooner, going on to FIH.
Thanks SP. Didn't know that.
I believe it will be CAA's first international destination then
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The uselessness continues

https://www.ch-aviation.com/news/143287 ... rove-audit


SAA has delayed finalising its 2023/2024 annual report to address outstanding issues - including an undisclosed disputed matter that could significantly affect the results - aiming for a better audit outcome and improved prospects to raise funding.

This was disclosed by Maropene Ramokgopa, Minister in The Presidency for Planning, Monitoring and Evaluation, in a letter to the Speaker of Parliament on July 26, in which she explained why she would be unable to table SAA's annual report, audited financial statements, and audit reports for the 2023/24 financial year by September 30, 2024, as required. However, she assured parliament she would "submit them promptly once they are finalised." South Africa's Public Finance Management Act (PFMA) requires public entities to table their financials before lawmakers within six months after the end of the financial year.

In her letter, the minister alluded to "a matter under dispute that may materially impact the 2023/24 results" but gave no further insight. On inquiry, a spokesperson for her office said: "SAA management is engaging with the Auditor-General of South Africa to finalise the audits. Once they are finalised, SAA will release the results. The audit is still underway, so there cannot be a pronouncement prior to its conclusion."

SAA was not immediately available for comment.

In addition, Ramokgopa said ongoing audits for the years 2018/19 to 2022/23 have prevented SAA from implementing certain recommendations to improve audit outcomes. "Delaying the submission of the approved draft annual financial statements for auditing will allow SAA to implement some of these recommendations, thereby improving the audit outcome. An improved audit outcome will be invaluable as the company seeks to raise funding," she explained.

SAA previously failed to file its annual results for four years, blaming its 17-month business rescue process between December 2019 and end-April 2021. On November 3, 2023, it eventually signed off its annual reports ending March 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2022.

SAA's current funding efforts are driven by the need for operational stability, the failure of privatisation efforts with the Takatso Aviation Consortium, and the government's decision not to provide further state bailouts.
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7675 wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 5:58 pm In her letter, the minister alluded to "a matter under dispute that may materially impact the 2023/24 results" but gave no further insight. On inquiry, a spokesperson for her office said: "SAA management is engaging with the Auditor-General of South Africa to finalise the audits. Once they are finalised, SAA will release the results. The audit is still underway, so there cannot be a pronouncement prior to its conclusion."
If it were a company with any credibility regarding publishing AFS on time (which it isn't) then I'd guess that it's an issue regarding repatriation of blocked currency. I recall them writing-down a lot of money that they had blocked in Nigeria (all foreign airlines had been suffering from this). Nigeria have since released most of this money (see: https://www.iata.org/en/pressroom/2024- ... -06-02-01/). If they had previously impaired it or part of it then a counter adjustment needs to be made. This sort of adjustment is usually done in conjunction with auditors and could be a reason for a delay (for a company with a challenging audit history).
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Sunday Times yesterday reporting that the dispute relates to "expired tickets". SAA still had an outstanding unflown ticket liability stemming from its business rescue and 2020-21 grounding. Any legal eagles here who know if airline tickets are treated the same way as gift vouchers for shopping and have a statutory or otherwise generally-accepted shelf life?


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7675 wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2024 5:58 pm In her letter, the minister alluded to "a matter under dispute that may materially impact the 2023/24 results" but gave no further insight. On inquiry, a spokesperson for her office said: "SAA management is engaging with the Auditor-General of South Africa to finalise the audits. Once they are finalised, SAA will release the results. The audit is still underway, so there cannot be a pronouncement prior to its conclusion."
If it were a company with any credibility regarding publishing AFS on time (which it isn't) then I'd guess that it's an issue regarding repatriation of blocked currency. I recall them writing-down a lot of money that they had blocked in Nigeria (all foreign airlines had been suffering from this). Nigeria have since released most of this money (see: https://www.iata.org/en/pressroom/2024- ... -06-02-01/). If they had previously impaired it or part of it then a counter adjustment needs to be made. This sort of adjustment is usually done in conjunction with auditors and could be a reason for a delay (for a company with a challenging audit history).
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Could SAA choose the 787 9ver the A350 when renewing its widebody fleet?

https://1stafrika.com/2024/09/10/south- ... er-future/

According to the above article SAA may choose Boeing over Airbus when it decides to renew it's widebody aircraft fleet..
The airline is exploring the acquisition of Airbus A220s and Boeing 787 Dreamliners, two aircraft renowned for their fuel efficiency and advanced technology. The Airbus A220, designed for short and medium-haul flights, boasts a 20% reduction in fuel consumption compared to older aircraft of similar size. Meanwhile, the Boeing 787 Dreamliner, tailored for long-haul routes, features cutting-edge aerodynamics and lightweight materials that significantly reduce fuel usage and emissions...
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So the Bullsh×t never ends . SAA s Chief Medical Officers certificate is invalid as it was not renewed as required by SACAA protocol therefore all SAAs crew medical certificates issued by their own Chief medical officer have been shown to be invalid.
What happens now ?
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https://www.citizen.co.za/news/no-crisi ... nce-issue/
SAA spokesperson Khaya Buthelezi said: “SAA’s internal process has established that there [are] only two cabin crew members and one pilot that have been negatively affected by ‘alleged fraudulent behaviour’ by the airline’s chief medical officer, Dr Nonhlanhla Sishaba.

"These affected employees will be medically recertified by the end of September 2024 as directed by both SAA internal processes and Sacca.”
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Pravin clocked out this morning. That chapter of deception is now closed.
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Re: SAA after Business rescue

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ZX357 wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 7:10 pm SAA REPORTS STRONG GROWTH

https://www.news24.com/citypress/busine ... s-20240912
All nonsense until they produce audited financials
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https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/ ... fied-fleet

Can someone please open this article and explain...
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Re: SAA after Business rescue

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ZX357 wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2024 11:24 pm https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/ ... fied-fleet

Can someone please open this article and explain...
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It contains multiple reports most of which is already public knowledge except the bit about SAA trying to leverage some of its assets ( probably real estate) to raise money .

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