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Re: Troll RTW: Preparations 1+2+3
Thanks for the update Calle, I will be following you, best of luck.
Does your intended route take you past FAPG?
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Does your intended route take you past FAPG?
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Re: Troll RTW: Preparations 1+2+3
Hi,
The planned route for day 1 is approximately 2,500nm over 16 hours, routing clock-wise around the country and returning to Cape Town. Depending on fuel consumption, weather and how bored we are, we might modify the last legs a bit. See attached flight log and map from Easyplan. We might do either VFR or IFR departure, but for most of the flight we will prefer VFR since it provides more flexibility - total flown distance is accurately calculated by indigosat, so if we deviate left or right or climb/descend here and there to break the monotony it's easier VFR.
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The planned route for day 1 is approximately 2,500nm over 16 hours, routing clock-wise around the country and returning to Cape Town. Depending on fuel consumption, weather and how bored we are, we might modify the last legs a bit. See attached flight log and map from Easyplan. We might do either VFR or IFR departure, but for most of the flight we will prefer VFR since it provides more flexibility - total flown distance is accurately calculated by indigosat, so if we deviate left or right or climb/descend here and there to break the monotony it's easier VFR.
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Calle
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Re: Troll RTW: Preparations 1+2+3
Hi Calle - my complements. Only read this now.
As you may or may not know, I was behind all the Shackleton preparation in 1994 which ended with us having the dual engine failure in the Sahara.
I can only complement you on your work so far. Question - have I missed your RTW route??
I know you're a Viking
and you're probably a Norwegian citizen too - get their diplomatic missions locations & contact data along your intended route.
Your A/C is SA registered - get names and phone numbers of the SA Missions in Africa.
You seem to be a well organised person - but I inform everyone reading this interesting thread - remember the 4 principles of Survival:
1. Protection
2, Location
3. Water
4. Food
and if you must and least desirable?
5. Travel
As an aside - for some fun, learn to tell the time (and direction) by means of the Southern Cross - yeah I know its only useful when & where the bodies are visible - its pretty accurate after some practice.
Has your programming of the ELT/PLB been ratified? The registration of your ELT/PLB done? Ask me - I too thought we were done and dusted - it wasn't useful when the RCC in Bodo didn't take our 406 transmission seriously because the registration was not done by the supplier. He was (unbeknown to me) in jail!
Wish I could do this trip with you!! Take care and good luck Calle.
As you may or may not know, I was behind all the Shackleton preparation in 1994 which ended with us having the dual engine failure in the Sahara.
I can only complement you on your work so far. Question - have I missed your RTW route??
I know you're a Viking

Your A/C is SA registered - get names and phone numbers of the SA Missions in Africa.
You seem to be a well organised person - but I inform everyone reading this interesting thread - remember the 4 principles of Survival:
1. Protection
2, Location
3. Water
4. Food
and if you must and least desirable?
5. Travel
As an aside - for some fun, learn to tell the time (and direction) by means of the Southern Cross - yeah I know its only useful when & where the bodies are visible - its pretty accurate after some practice.
Has your programming of the ELT/PLB been ratified? The registration of your ELT/PLB done? Ask me - I too thought we were done and dusted - it wasn't useful when the RCC in Bodo didn't take our 406 transmission seriously because the registration was not done by the supplier. He was (unbeknown to me) in jail!

Wish I could do this trip with you!! Take care and good luck Calle.
Hartog
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Re: Troll RTW: Preparations 1+2+3
I didn't know, wasn't even aware of the accident (I started flying in 2006). Must have been a rough time...Horace Blok wrote:As you may or may not know, I was behind all the Shackleton preparation in 1994 which ended with us having the dual engine failure in the Sahara.
I cannot off hand remember if I've posted it before, but it's been changing back and forth (Eastwards or Westwards etc) as departure has been delayed. I applied for a ferry tank approval in Jul-12 and had then intended to leave Oct/Nov, but some of the paper work with the CAA (e.g. overweight exemption, GNSS aircraft approval) is still not finalised. But if I'm able to get the last few pieces sorted out now, then my tentative route will beHorace Blok wrote:I can only complement you on your work so far. Question - have I missed your RTW route??
SA -> Africa west coast -> Brazil -> US (Sun & Fun, Florida) -> US/Canada/Alaska -> Norway (via Iceland & Faero Islands or the North Pole) -> Around Europe -> Azores -> Oshkosh -> Around US/Canada -> Central America -> South America -> Valparaiso -> Easter Islands -> South Pacific island hopping -> New Zealand -> Australia -> Around Asia -> Middle East -> Africa East -> SA. I reckon around 280-300 hours of flying in total (i.e. 45-50,000nm).
Yeah, I'm Norwegian - and I've got the contact details for both Norwegian and SA missions world-wide.Horace Blok wrote:I know you're a Vikingand you're probably a Norwegian citizen too - get their diplomatic missions locations & contact data along your intended route.
Your A/C is SA registered - get names and phone numbers of the SA Missions in Africa.
Where do I find guidance on HOW to do that (and I don't mean using the stellar map app on my Android phone or on my iPAD)?Horace Blok wrote:You seem to be a well organised person - but I inform everyone reading this interesting thread - remember the 4 principles of Survival:
1. Protection
2, Location
3. Water
4. Food
and if you must and least desirable?
5. Travel
As an aside - for some fun, learn to tell the time (and direction) by means of the Southern Cross - yeah I know its only useful when & where the bodies are visible - its pretty accurate after some practice.
I personally did the registration of my PLB, but I also discovered that my ELT had NOT been registered when I got the aircraft 3 years ago! Not sure if AME Aviation made a mistake or if it was the CAA, but it's been sorted out now. In any case I was going to verify with both the Emergency Centre in Cape Town AND with Heksie before leaving that ALL my emergency & communication systems are properly registered:Horace Blok wrote:Has your programming of the ELT/PLB been ratified? The registration of your ELT/PLB done? Ask me - I too thought we were done and dusted - it wasn't useful when the RCC in Bodo didn't take our 406 transmission seriously because the registration was not done by the supplier. He was (unbeknown to me) in jail!![]()
- PLB
- ELT
- IndigoSat One Tracker
- Iridium Satphone.
- Cellphone
- iPAD (it does have a GPS and a simcard)
- HF radio with SELCAL
But maybe I should actually check the same with the RCC in Bodoe...
Regards
Calle
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Re: Troll RTW: Preparations 1+2+3
Then Calle replied:Horace Blok wrote:You seem to be a well organised person - but I inform everyone reading this interesting thread - remember the 4 principles of Survival:
1. Protection
2, Location
3. Water
4. Food
and if you must and least desirable?
5. Travel
As an aside - for some fun, learn to tell the time (and direction) by means of the Southern Cross - yeah I know its only useful when & where the bodies are visible - its pretty accurate after some practice.
Now you know why your trusty PTAR navigator keeps a beady eye on you and your travelling plans.Where do I find guidance on HOW to do that (and I don't mean using the stellar map app on my Android phone or on my iPAD)?
Come on over, Makwassie nights are clear and the sky view breathtaking!!
Not difficult at all!!
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Re: Troll RTW: Preparations 1+2+3
Southern Cross time:
As it turns out, on or about March 29, the Southern Cross stands upright in the southern sky at midnight local time, approximately. Doesn’t matter where you live… Pretoria, Perth, or Palmerston North… at midnight, roughly, as long as you can see it, the Cross will point upright, as in the following image:
The Southern Cross points directly to “12 o’clock” at midnight local time on or about March 29, and rotates around the south celestial pole (SCP) like a giant celestial clock (click to enlarge).
Now the stars of Crux, like all stars, will appear to rotate around the south celestial pole during the night (and day). If you face south, Crux will rotate clockwise at half the rate of the hour-hand in a clock. In 24 hours, Crux comes all the way around to its original position. In 6 hours, Crux makes a quarter revolution, and in 3 hours, it makes ⅛ of a revolution, and so on. So, as an example, on March 29 you look up at see Crux pointing to 1:30 on its celestial clock, you know it’s 3 a.m. (Here’s what it looks like). If it’s pointing to 3:00 on March 29, then it must be 6 a.m. And if it’s pointing to 11:00, then it must be 10 p.m.
Not too hard, right?
You can use the same trick at other times of year, assuming you can see Crux from your location. But it’s a little more complicated because Crux will point to midnight at a time other than true midnight. That’s because the stars shift a little in position each night because of the Earth’s revolution around the Sun. In a month, the stars rise earlier by 2 hours. So Crux points directly upward to 12:00 at 10 p.m. on April 29, and 8 p.m. on May 29, and 2 a.m. on February 28 (or March 1), and so on.
Just remember, add 2 hours for each month after March 29, or subtract 2 hours for every month before March 29. That works out to one hour every two weeks.
As it turns out, on or about March 29, the Southern Cross stands upright in the southern sky at midnight local time, approximately. Doesn’t matter where you live… Pretoria, Perth, or Palmerston North… at midnight, roughly, as long as you can see it, the Cross will point upright, as in the following image:
The Southern Cross points directly to “12 o’clock” at midnight local time on or about March 29, and rotates around the south celestial pole (SCP) like a giant celestial clock (click to enlarge).
Now the stars of Crux, like all stars, will appear to rotate around the south celestial pole during the night (and day). If you face south, Crux will rotate clockwise at half the rate of the hour-hand in a clock. In 24 hours, Crux comes all the way around to its original position. In 6 hours, Crux makes a quarter revolution, and in 3 hours, it makes ⅛ of a revolution, and so on. So, as an example, on March 29 you look up at see Crux pointing to 1:30 on its celestial clock, you know it’s 3 a.m. (Here’s what it looks like). If it’s pointing to 3:00 on March 29, then it must be 6 a.m. And if it’s pointing to 11:00, then it must be 10 p.m.
Not too hard, right?
You can use the same trick at other times of year, assuming you can see Crux from your location. But it’s a little more complicated because Crux will point to midnight at a time other than true midnight. That’s because the stars shift a little in position each night because of the Earth’s revolution around the Sun. In a month, the stars rise earlier by 2 hours. So Crux points directly upward to 12:00 at 10 p.m. on April 29, and 8 p.m. on May 29, and 2 a.m. on February 28 (or March 1), and so on.
Just remember, add 2 hours for each month after March 29, or subtract 2 hours for every month before March 29. That works out to one hour every two weeks.
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Re: Troll RTW: Preparations 1+2+3
Mr Google is clever hey Mike? At Nav school, we taught that to the Nav students and was used especially during the survival phase. It was really accurate and well . . . . . . . kinda useful. However - to determine time on a date other than 29 March, take that date - add 2 hrs per month (as stated) and 4 mins per day - otherwise I kinda agree with that described in your link.
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Re: Troll RTW: Preparations 1+2+3
So are you, mr Blok!!Mr Google is clever hey Mike?


You caught me way too soon!!

Although I did know before I googled, and actually used it a few times many many moons ago. That was before I grew wisdom teeth and learned to fly, rather than bloody walk!
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Mike - its fascinating stuff (or rubbish) like this thats regrettably being "lost". The fact you knew about it and used it impresses me. The night sky and what it can do for you ought to be encouraged - Know how many stars are used for celestial Navigation? Of course questions like these are easily answered by Mr Google. I'll save you guys the trawl - its 57 as contained in the Air Almanac.
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Re: Troll RTW: Preparations 1+2+3
Of no use to you (sorry) but a question, Calle: shouldn't this undertaking be called TRTW or RTWT? Aren't you, in effect, going <twice> around the globe? 

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Re: Troll RTW: Preparations 1+2+3
I present a junior hunters course every year mid winter holidays for children.
We have been doing it for three years now and the SAHGCA (big mouthful, but the hunter's assoc for short) visited our camp last year.This year children from all over the NW province are sent here for the camp.
This is where we keep these gems of knowledge alive.
Rubbish it may seem to be at first glance, but survival is all about attitude. Taking care about little issues (ie capable of making yourself comfortable in the bush, able to recognize plant species, animal behaviour, water sources, finding direction etc) reduces the feeling of everything being useless and hopeless dramatically.
Sorry Calle, lecture and hijack over!!
I shall be tracking you, and awaiting your flypast!
We have been doing it for three years now and the SAHGCA (big mouthful, but the hunter's assoc for short) visited our camp last year.This year children from all over the NW province are sent here for the camp.
This is where we keep these gems of knowledge alive.
Rubbish it may seem to be at first glance, but survival is all about attitude. Taking care about little issues (ie capable of making yourself comfortable in the bush, able to recognize plant species, animal behaviour, water sources, finding direction etc) reduces the feeling of everything being useless and hopeless dramatically.
Sorry Calle, lecture and hijack over!!
I shall be tracking you, and awaiting your flypast!
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Mmm - rather RTWZ for Round The World Zigzag style.Christopher wrote:Of no use to you (sorry) but a question, Calle: shouldn't this undertaking be called TRTW or RTWT? Aren't you, in effect, going <twice> around the globe?


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OK, we're on for Sunday and I hope there won't be any further weather hassles now! Estimated overhead Makwassie-Visagie International Grassport around 1000Z....mikev wrote:I shall be tracking you, and awaiting your flypast!
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Re: Troll RTW: Preparations 1+2+3
Hi Calle,
Great to see you have a departure date and are ready to go.
Wishing you a safe and enjoyable adventure and will be following your travels with much interest.
How can we follow you?
All the best,
Rob
Great to see you have a departure date and are ready to go.
Wishing you a safe and enjoyable adventure and will be following your travels with much interest.
How can we follow you?
All the best,
Rob
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Re: Troll RTW: Preparations 1+2+3
Rob,
Haven't really READ this thread, have you?
Do so, and thy questions will be answered.....
Regards
calle
Haven't really READ this thread, have you?



Do so, and thy questions will be answered.....
Regards
calle
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