Jabiru ownership in hours flown vs. the rest

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Jabiru ownership in hours flown vs. the rest

Unread post by peterd » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:48 pm

Looking at the aircraft sales I wonder how the stats add up . How often are Jabiru's traded vs other aircraft. ?
Can anybody share their expertise in the ( hours flown ) that people keep their aircraft with regard to Jabiru and other aircraft.

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Re: Jabiru ownership in hours flown vs. the rest

Unread post by wildwings » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:51 pm

Good question, look forward to the response. Suspect it may be difficult to get the data on this.
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Re: Jabiru ownership in hours flown vs. the rest

Unread post by henk-indabush » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:41 pm

No Data.
My gut feel is that most jabbie owners fall in one of 2 groups;
1. Owners keep their aircraft for many years and hours
2. They trade up (because the family or their needs have grown) after around 300 hours on the jab.
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Re: Jabiru ownership in hours flown vs. the rest

Unread post by pietmeyer » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:27 am

I have flown my Jab about 300 hours in 3 years. No plans to sell. Maybe later sell it and buy a brand new Jab but replacing it with something else, don't think so. If the need arises for something bigger, it will be a second plane but for economical reasons, a Jab will always be in my hangar
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Re: Jabiru ownership in hours flown vs. the rest

Unread post by ZuluBen » Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:46 am

Henk and Piet sums it up just about right 8)

Myself, 2000hrs on my C337, 500hrs on my Aztec, 500 hrs on my C150, 2000 hrs on Jabbies. As I am a planeaholic, I have never sold any of my planes :shock: :roll: and still have them all :oops: :P So I cannot really tell you about that....

Planes are pretty "mission specific", so you do not buy and maintain a Hercules if you need a C150... :roll: 8-[

However, I have assisted in the sale / purchase of a few Jabbies. I found that the 2 seaters are usually "starter" planes, and at some time most owners will trade to a 430 for more space. However with the 170 series, a lot of the owners will be long timers.

As for the 4 seaters, there seems to be 2 groups, people will either trade their 400 / 430 for a newer model, or keep them forever.

Got to confess, my Jabbie still gets the most stars for overall owner experience. 8) 8) 8)
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Re: Jabiru ownership in hours flown vs. the rest

Unread post by checkride » Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:20 pm

Yea well keep our J 400 till the bitter end.. :D :D 400 hrs in 2 1/2 years
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Re: Jabiru ownership in hours flown vs. the rest

Unread post by dak » Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:10 pm

Hi
I have put 410 hrs on my J120 but now time to upgrade ... got the PPL already now just to find
a suitable J430 aircraft.
Finding said aircraft has not been fun, most are seriously over priced and the realistically priced ones
each have their own issues.
A new one is very expensive now and a long agonizing wait and not without risks to the purchaser.
The 760Kg feature is necessary for my mission.
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Re: Jabiru ownership in hours flown vs. the rest

Unread post by checkride » Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:19 pm

[quote="dak"]Hi
I have put 410 hrs on my J120 but now time to upgrade ... got the PPL already now just to find
a suitable J430 aircraft.
Finding said aircraft has not been fun, most are seriously over priced and the realistically priced ones
each have their own issues.
A new one is very expensive now and a long agonizing wait and not without risks to the purchaser.
The 760Kg feature is necessary for my mission.
Dak[/quote]


Compared to what? Cannot buy or build a new plane for the cost of a J430...Whats a new J430 800K, not bad at all
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Re: Jabiru ownership in hours flown vs. the rest

Unread post by Marius Schrenk » Sun Apr 24, 2016 4:28 pm

dak wrote:Hi
I have put 410 hrs on my J120 but now time to upgrade ... got the PPL already now just to find
a suitable J430 aircraft.
Finding said aircraft has not been fun, most are seriously over priced and the realistically priced ones
each have their own issues.
A new one is very expensive now and a long agonizing wait and not without risks to the purchaser.
The 760Kg feature is necessary for my mission.
Dak
I believe the 760 to be a fallacy :idea: :roll:
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Re: Jabiru ownership in hours flown vs. the rest

Unread post by dak » Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:45 pm

Hi Marius
The 760Kg thing is a paperwork thing, if one has an incident and CAA do the standard investigation
and check the weights it can easy become pilot negligence and insurance problems could result.
The 760Kg certificate makes a big difference.
The 700kg models at the average empty weight I've been seeing only has 310kg payload.
After a full tank of AVGAS there is only 215kg of payload left .... eeeeish ... not even a 3 seater.
The extra 60kg makes a big difference.
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Re: Jabiru ownership in hours flown vs. the rest

Unread post by dak » Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:37 pm

Hi Checkride
Well compared to other aircraft suppliers the Jabi wins hands down, but the Rand keeps pushing the price.
R800k is a scary proposition to the financial mortal.
The Jabi was not aimed at the rich and famous but rather normal middle class aviation folk.
Maybe my fairy godmother grants me a wish ?
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Re: Jabiru ownership in hours flown vs. the rest

Unread post by Marius Schrenk » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:36 am

dak wrote:Hi Marius
The 760Kg thing is a paperwork thing, if one has an incident and CAA do the standard investigation
and check the weights it can easy become pilot negligence and insurance problems could result.
The 760Kg certificate makes a big difference.
The 700kg models at the average empty weight I've been seeing only has 310kg payload.
After a full tank of AVGAS there is only 215kg of payload left .... eeeeish ... not even a 3 seater.
The extra 60kg makes a big difference.
Dak
Have a look at the 760's empty weight.....then find me 60 kg extra on the 700 kg model :idea: a 430 is a two seater with enough luggage space for a weekend. =D> It has exactly the same wings/engine as a 700 kg model.....so whats lifting the extra 60 kg ?
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Re: Jabiru ownership in hours flown vs. the rest

Unread post by DiaanR » Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:09 pm

I understand from the newly appointed Jab test pilot, the difference between the 700kg and 760kg model is the connection points for the wingstruts on the fuselage were improved since this was the limiting factor. The fuselage was strengthened in this area to handle the extra weight. How accurate this is needs to be confirmed by Jabiru.

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