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Re: Emigration options

Unread post by heinrich » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:33 pm

Nice Paul. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Emigration options

Unread post by Fransw » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:40 pm

paulw wrote:
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I live out in the country outside Galway. One house on the one side, sheep on three sides :D

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Yes, thank you Paul! You put a lot of effort into this "Emigration" thread!... :D
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Re: Emigration options

Unread post by vanjast » Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:19 am

paulw wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:56 pm
I live out in the country outside Galway. One house on the one side, sheep on three sides :D
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You'll be known as a 'Culchie', living close to the Ire's west coast 'outback' :twisted:
I'll be known as a 'West Brit', or 'Townie'.. living on the east coast :wink:

You come to discover the incredible loathing they have for each other.. it's actually entertaining to the extreme.. wtf.
Being foreign you'll find yourself being accepted more readily, but beware, they like to get you on their side asap.
I've stood my ground with them, explicitly stating that I'm not taking sides and remain neutral.
They grudgingly accept that, and it ups the anti to 'convert' you - Stand your ground :lol:

But all in all, you're living in the best area :wink:
I have family on both sides.
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Re: Emigration options

Unread post by paulw » Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:07 am

vanjast wrote:
Fri Mar 15, 2019 12:19 am
paulw wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:56 pm
I live out in the country outside Galway. One house on the one side, sheep on three sides :D
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You'll be known as a 'Culchie', living close to the Ire's west coast 'outback' :twisted:
I'll be known as a 'West Brit', or 'Townie'.. living on the east coast :wink:

You come to discover the incredible loathing they have for each other.. it's actually entertaining to the extreme.. wtf.
Being foreign you'll find yourself being accepted more readily, but beware, they like to get you on their side asap.
I've stood my ground with them, explicitly stating that I'm not taking sides and remain neutral.
They grudgingly accept that, and it ups the anti to 'convert' you - Stand your ground :lol:

But all in all, you're living in the best area :wink:
I have family on both sides.
Hhhmm, interesting, didn't know that :D
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Re: Emigration options

Unread post by Fransw » Sat Mar 23, 2019 1:05 pm

Where are the happiest immigrants?
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Re: Emigration options

Unread post by paulw » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:13 pm

Fransw wrote:
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Where are the happiest immigrants?

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Interesting. In the one hand it makes sense, but also different to an article I once read many years ago. That article stated that the immigrants in the Scandanavian countries were the most unhappy and the most likely to return to South Africa (It was a research on South Africans in various countries and how likely they are to return to South Africa)
I think that the statistics posted must be a mix from various countries including residents from countries where it is already maybe colder, wetter, etc.

From that previous article from what I remember, a very high percentage in Scandanavian countries are likely or wanting to return to SA, about 50% of those in the UK and 9% of those in Australia and New Zealand.
I think mostly because of weather and being dark for most of the days in the winter.
But if you look at the countries on this list in general, you do see countries very high in standard of living.
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Re: Emigration options

Unread post by Fransw » Mon Mar 25, 2019 9:56 am

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San Diego really looks like an awesome place to live!! Did you stay in La Jolla? Expensive!..
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Re: Emigration options

Unread post by Whirly » Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:09 am

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Whirly

San Diego really looks like an awesome place to live!! Did you stay in La Jolla? Expensive!..
Better than Cape Town! :D I moved to El Cajon (pronounced El Cahon) as I was operating out of Gillespie Field. Most Saffers that live in the USA, live in La Jolla. Expensive, yes!

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Unread post by Fransw » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:29 pm

Whirly wrote:
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Whirly

San Diego really looks like an awesome place to live!! Did you stay in La Jolla? Expensive!..
Better than Cape Town! :D I moved to El Cajon (pronounced El Cahon) as I was operating out of Gillespie Field. Most Saffers that live in the USA, live in La Jolla. Expensive, yes!

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Montgomery field is not the same as Gillespie? No.. Maybe just close by..

I see Gillespie is buzzing with activity! Nice to see that on a relatively small airport.. :D
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Unread post by Whirly » Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:32 pm

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No not the same. Miramar is also close by.

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Re: Emigration options

Unread post by paulw » Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:29 am

Interesting Article

Some White South Africans are starting to feel unsafe and can’t find work and they are now emigrating: These are the 10 biggest factors driving South Africans abroad

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Recently-released data on emigration from South Africa shows that an alarming number of citizens are considering packing up and moving abroad.

Afrobarometer has released a trove of emigration data concerning South Africa and the rest of the continent, and it’s turned up some eye-catching results. Almost half of those surveyed in Mzansi have considered living abroad as a genuinely feasible option that would benefit them in the long run.

It’s perhaps no surprise that more than two-thirds of potential emigres from SA want to head towards Europe or North America. Mauritius and Madagascar also score highly in this regard. But this feedback bucks the trend set by the majority of sub-Saharan Africa, where a large number of respondents say they would stay within the continent:

“If residents of South Africa – the primary destination country within the region – are considering migration, they are far more likely to be looking outside the continent (69% say Europe, North America, or some other non-African destination), as are potential emigrants in Mauritius (87%) and Madagascar (76%).” – Afrobarometer

The data also revealed that a considerable minority of our fellow citizens are already packing up their things and going. Last week, we revealed that 10% of all sellers in the property market are looking to move abroad. That glum mood stretches far beyond real estate figures, though:

* It’s estimated that 3% of all South Africans are currently preparing to emigrate, or have already begun the process of emigration.

* Around 12% of our young adults (aged 18-25) are strongly considering a life abroad.

* Just over 4 in 10 South Africans have considered emigration at some point.




The 10 top reasons why South Africans consider emigration
The Afrobarometer survey asked its participants why they would consider moving overseas, and there was an overwhelming favourite that came out on top: 40% state that they were tired of not being able to find work and felt they would have much better luck elsewhere.

The unemployment rate stands at 27% in this country, but youth unemployment is even worse. Around half of all young adults are struggling to find a job in Mzansi. Other respondents said they would leave to country to try and escape poverty, whereas the promise of a more “peaceful life” proved to be another popular motivating factor:

Factor Percentage of South Africans
Finding work 40%
To escape poverty 17%
Peace and security 8%
Travel and tourism purposes 7%
Business prospects 6%
Democracy and freedom 5%
Better services 4%
Unspecified reasons 4%
Join family 3%
Improve education 2%

We spoke to emigration specialists Sable International on this topic. They believe these numbers are so high because of the current political situation. They list SOE mismanagement and land reform uncertainties as the factors which are finally pushing people towards leaving South Africa:

“Since about 2015, there’s been a feeling of instability and uncertainty about our country and the future. Land reform, talk of nationalising the reserve bank, gross mismanagement of SOE’s plus rampant corruption in the government has contributed to uncertainty around our country.”

“This is a big contributing factor when people make the decision to emigrate. The costs of emigration is always increasing, so the only way a number of people can make that move or meet the financial requirements is by selling their major assets or properties sooner rather than later.” – John Dunn, Immigration Manager

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Unread post by paulw » Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:33 am

When my dogs were fetched few weeks ago, the one guy was saying that they have about 3 families pets emigrating per day on a quite day.
(Then they have pets travelling locally of course as well on top of that.)
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Unread post by Jason » Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:52 am

I personally know of 3 people(men) gone overseas to find work and family has stayed behind in SA (due to varies reasons), and know of two other family's in my neighborhood who have moved to the UK this month.
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Re: Emigration options

Unread post by Falafel » Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:54 am

paulw wrote:
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When my dogs were fetched few weeks ago, the one guy was saying that they have about 3 families pets emigrating per day on a quite day.
(Then they have pets travelling locally of course as well on top of that.)
Not surprising that the actual statistics may be understating the problem.... many dont emigrate, dont declare that they are going but simply up and leave... a few houses near me in Fourways standing empty... look abandoned where people have left...

Saddest thing for me is that I met someone who looks after Retriever rescues who said that they are inundated with them after people have left the country... being a real family dog its pretty sad... if my Retrievers cant come... I dont go :!: :!: :!: :!:
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Re: Emigration options

Unread post by Jack Welles » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:04 pm

Falafel wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:54 am
paulw wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:33 am
When my dogs were fetched few weeks ago, the one guy was saying that they have about 3 families pets emigrating per day on a quite day.
(Then they have pets travelling locally of course as well on top of that.)
Not surprising that the actual statistics may be understating the problem.... many dont emigrate, dont declare that they are going but simply up and leave... a few houses near me in Fourways standing empty... look abandoned where people have left...

Saddest thing for me is that I met someone who looks after Retriever rescues who said that they are inundated with them after people have left the country... being a real family dog its pretty sad... if my Retrievers cant come... I dont go :!: :!: :!: :!:
Lot of opportunities (especially in property) open up every time there's a rush to leave. The first time I remember was back in the late 1980's. Properties were going for a song. I guess you could call them "emigration options" for those who stay :lol:

Of course it's a risky business, the law of averages tells us that the apocalypse actually has to happen some time 8-[
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