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Re: SAA after Business rescue

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SAA continues to nosedive while Gordhan delays take-off of long-awaited Takatso deal
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Guy Leitch is editor of SA Flyer and FlightCom magazines.

Despite promises that SAA Version 2 would require no more bailouts, Public Enterprises Minister Pravin Gordhan has been granted an extra R1-billion for the ailing airline, while the completion of the Takatso Consortium deal seems further away than ever.

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Much was hoped for from SAA Version 2. The government made promises about no more bailouts, including no further guarantees for debt and aircraft leases. Yet Minister Pravin Gordhan has now been given a further R1-billion for SAA – for “business rescue purposes.”

The magic cure for SAA was supposed to be the sale of a majority shareholding to the Takatso Consortium. It was claimed this would provide the capital and skills to run the airline without yet more taxpayer money.

There are also unanswered questions about where Takatso will get the promised R3-billion from – and even whether it promised the funds at all.

It appears increasingly unlikely that the Takatso deal will ever happen. In June it will be three years since the deal was announced and the government keeps kicking the can down the road. Now, as his latest delaying tactic, Gordhan has withdrawn the new SAA Bill from Parliament.

Only once the SAA Act is replaced, will the government start the time-consuming process of applying for amended operating licences. If the government was genuinely committed to selling off the airline, these steps would have been completed years ago – while it was grinding through the Competition Commission and Tribunal.

So yet again the Takatso deal is stalled, and the airline continues to operate with a shortage of both skills and capital, as it has done for the past 25 years.

From 2001 to 2010, SAA averaged a loss of roughly R1-billion a year on a R25-billion turnover. While the critics moaned, this loss was claimed to be justifiable because of the broader benefits SAA brought to the South African economy. Then, under Dudu Myeni, this loss swelled to an unsustainable R6-billion a year.

No option but to grin and bear it
To justify its support for a business it has no reason to be in, the government likes to remind us of the importance of SAA to South Africa’s economy. Gordhan pointed out that it is essential for skills development, and to keep as much of the money spent on air travel in South Africa as possible. With no viable political opposition, taxpayers had no choice but to grin and bear these delusions.

Continuing the same rationale, under business rescue, R26-billion was provided to recapitalise the airline – to fill the massive debt hole created by looting, preferential procurement and cadre deployment. Creditors were forced to take vicious haircuts so that the interest burden of the legacy debt could be wiped out. Losses of R50-billion were quietly erased so that the new SAA V2 could be presented debt-free, as an unencumbered bride, to the Takatso Consortium.

Under the business rescue process, the airline’s headcount was slashed from 5,000 to just 1,000. The new streamlined company made taxpayers happy by claiming that it had made a profit and was running cash positive.

But it was a short-lived honeymoon. For 2022 the airline produced a R122-million loss – and that was on a paltry R3.6-billion revenue, just 14% of pre-Covid levels.

By 2023 the world’s airline industry had recovered to 95% of its pre-Covid levels, yet SAA remained the dunce of the class – and an embarrassment to all South Africans, apart from the tone-deaf government.

For the 2023 financial year, the SAA Group loss had swollen to R761-million, which was not as bad as it might have been without the quiet star of the show; SAA Technical, and a miraculous contribution from the moribund Mango Airlines.

In 2024 the airline has reported a loss of R776-million for just nine months, and thus extrapolating, a probable loss of R1-billion for the year.

The airline’s key problem is that revenue for 2023 was 26% less than budget, mainly because it cannot get the planes it needs to open up its old routes – or even try to compete on new routes. It has also admitted that it cannot attract the right calibre of staff. The best of its Flight Operations staffers have long since found employment in airlines as diverse as RwandAir, and as far afield as Fiji, where former SAA CEO Andre Viljoen successfully runs an airline considerably bigger and better than SAA V2.

A particular irony is that one of the spin-offs from the business rescue process was that the airline was supposed to finally be able to transform its pilot body from being 80% white male to mostly non-white. Yet a disproportionately large number of the non-white pilots left the airline for greener, or sandier, shores.

The government is leading taxpayers down the garden path. From its continual delaying, it can only be concluded that it has little or no intention of completing the Takatso deal. And so SAA will continue to struggle along, with obsolete aircraft and unable to attract quality management. The losses will continue. Pravin’s promises of no more bailouts are already being revealed to be meaningless. DM
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Re: SAA after Business rescue

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Volo wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:48 am SAA continues to nosedive while Gordhan delays take-off of long-awaited Takatso deal
By Guy Leitch
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28 Feb 2024 2
Guy Leitch is editor of SA Flyer and FlightCom magazines.

Despite promises that SAA Version 2 would require no more bailouts, Public Enterprises Minister Pravin Gordhan has been granted an extra R1-billion for the ailing airline, while the completion of the Takatso Consortium deal seems further away than ever.

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Much was hoped for from SAA Version 2. The government made promises about no more bailouts, including no further guarantees for debt and aircraft leases. Yet Minister Pravin Gordhan has now been given a further R1-billion for SAA – for “business rescue purposes.”

The magic cure for SAA was supposed to be the sale of a majority shareholding to the Takatso Consortium. It was claimed this would provide the capital and skills to run the airline without yet more taxpayer money.

There are also unanswered questions about where Takatso will get the promised R3-billion from – and even whether it promised the funds at all.

It appears increasingly unlikely that the Takatso deal will ever happen. In June it will be three years since the deal was announced and the government keeps kicking the can down the road. Now, as his latest delaying tactic, Gordhan has withdrawn the new SAA Bill from Parliament.

Only once the SAA Act is replaced, will the government start the time-consuming process of applying for amended operating licences. If the government was genuinely committed to selling off the airline, these steps would have been completed years ago – while it was grinding through the Competition Commission and Tribunal.

So yet again the Takatso deal is stalled, and the airline continues to operate with a shortage of both skills and capital, as it has done for the past 25 years.

From 2001 to 2010, SAA averaged a loss of roughly R1-billion a year on a R25-billion turnover. While the critics moaned, this loss was claimed to be justifiable because of the broader benefits SAA brought to the South African economy. Then, under Dudu Myeni, this loss swelled to an unsustainable R6-billion a year.

No option but to grin and bear it
To justify its support for a business it has no reason to be in, the government likes to remind us of the importance of SAA to South Africa’s economy. Gordhan pointed out that it is essential for skills development, and to keep as much of the money spent on air travel in South Africa as possible. With no viable political opposition, taxpayers had no choice but to grin and bear these delusions.

Continuing the same rationale, under business rescue, R26-billion was provided to recapitalise the airline – to fill the massive debt hole created by looting, preferential procurement and cadre deployment. Creditors were forced to take vicious haircuts so that the interest burden of the legacy debt could be wiped out. Losses of R50-billion were quietly erased so that the new SAA V2 could be presented debt-free, as an unencumbered bride, to the Takatso Consortium.

Under the business rescue process, the airline’s headcount was slashed from 5,000 to just 1,000. The new streamlined company made taxpayers happy by claiming that it had made a profit and was running cash positive.

But it was a short-lived honeymoon. For 2022 the airline produced a R122-million loss – and that was on a paltry R3.6-billion revenue, just 14% of pre-Covid levels.

By 2023 the world’s airline industry had recovered to 95% of its pre-Covid levels, yet SAA remained the dunce of the class – and an embarrassment to all South Africans, apart from the tone-deaf government.

For the 2023 financial year, the SAA Group loss had swollen to R761-million, which was not as bad as it might have been without the quiet star of the show; SAA Technical, and a miraculous contribution from the moribund Mango Airlines.

In 2024 the airline has reported a loss of R776-million for just nine months, and thus extrapolating, a probable loss of R1-billion for the year.

The airline’s key problem is that revenue for 2023 was 26% less than budget, mainly because it cannot get the planes it needs to open up its old routes – or even try to compete on new routes. It has also admitted that it cannot attract the right calibre of staff. The best of its Flight Operations staffers have long since found employment in airlines as diverse as RwandAir, and as far afield as Fiji, where former SAA CEO Andre Viljoen successfully runs an airline considerably bigger and better than SAA V2.

A particular irony is that one of the spin-offs from the business rescue process was that the airline was supposed to finally be able to transform its pilot body from being 80% white male to mostly non-white. Yet a disproportionately large number of the non-white pilots left the airline for greener, or sandier, shores.

The government is leading taxpayers down the garden path. From its continual delaying, it can only be concluded that it has little or no intention of completing the Takatso deal. And so SAA will continue to struggle along, with obsolete aircraft and unable to attract quality management. The losses will continue. Pravin’s promises of no more bailouts are already being revealed to be meaningless. DM
Why is the South African government holding on so desperately to SAA? Can someone explain this to me?

"A particular irony is that one of the spin-offs from the business rescue process was that the airline was supposed to finally be able to transform its pilot body from being 80% white male to mostly non-white. Yet a disproportionately large number of the non-white pilots left the airline for greener, or sandier, shores. " Again. I am not surprised. I mentioned this before. I met many aviation professionals in the Middle East that were not pale faced.
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Why is the South African government holding on so desperately to SAA? Can someone explain this to me?
Money laundering maybe?
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The_Kev wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:41 am
Why is the South African government holding on so desperately to SAA? Can someone explain this to me?
Money laundering maybe?
Just to prove a point, which we all knew is not possible! :roll: But because they are using taxpayers money, they don't care. :evil:

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Re: SAA after Business rescue

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The_Kev wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:41 am
Why is the South African government holding on so desperately to SAA? Can someone explain this to me?
Money laundering maybe?
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Kev asks why this determination by government to keep SAA going .
I believe it could be for some of the following reasons:-
1. Delusions of grandeur as the government has some unfounded idea that we are the lead nation in Africa and are to be the ones to lead Africa out of its economic morass - Thabo Mbeki started this notion 20 years ago.
2. Then there is the importance the gov. attaches to the need to transform society by only using black pilots as evidenced by whom they retained when they shut down old SAA.
3. Then there is the simple admission the government cant make that they simply do not have the ability to run an airline .
4. Then there is the hold the unions have over them dictating who they employ and what they pay them.
5. Then there is the current administration that are demonstrating daily that they do not understand that there attempt to rehabilitate the airline is doomed by lack of capital by a big margin.
6. Then there is simple fact that they cant admit at this late stage that their design has failed and should be closed.
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Re: SAA after Business rescue

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Volo wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 7:26 am
The_Kev wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:41 am
Why is the South African government holding on so desperately to SAA? Can someone explain this to me?
Money laundering maybe?
.........................
Kev asks why this determination by government to keep SAA going .
I believe it could be for some of the following reasons:-
1. Delusions of grandeur as the government has some unfounded idea that we are the lead nation in Africa and are to be the ones to lead Africa out of its economic morass - Thabo Mbeki started this notion 20 years ago.
2. Then there is the importance the gov. attaches to the need to transform society by only using black pilots as evidenced by whom they retained when they shut down old SAA.
3. Then there is the simple admission the government cant make that they simply do not have the ability to run an airline .
4. Then there is the hold the unions have over them dictating who they employ and what they pay them.
5. Then there is the current administration that are demonstrating daily that they do not understand that there attempt to rehabilitate the airline is doomed by lack of capital by a big margin.
6. Then there is simple fact that they cant admit at this late stage that their design has failed and should be closed.
Correct me if I am wrong.

The Namibian government chose to shut down Air Namibia.
I believe they were in a similiar postion than SAA.
Clearly they government is much smater than ours...
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Why keep it open? To be able to keep looting, pretty simple.
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Correct me if I am wrong.

The Namibian government chose to shut down Air Namibia.
I believe they were in a similiar postion than SAA.
Clearly they government is much smater than ours...
And Namibia have far less tax payers compared to SA. Here the looting base is much much larger...
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snoopy wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:54 pm
Correct me if I am wrong.

The Namibian government chose to shut down Air Namibia.
I believe they were in a similiar postion than SAA.
Clearly they government is much smater than ours...
And Namibia have far less tax payers compared to SA. Here the looting base is much much larger...

Yes, we have 4 times more taxpayers, than they have people in the country.

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Any particular reason you felt the need to post something so pointless to this thread?
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Some of us actually love the airline and we acknowledge it's flaws.
This is the only place I can find out more information in a singe discussion about the airline and it is a public forum not only for bashing and spreading hate about it but to allow the very few us to take some pride in it.

Just sharing some lighter positive news for those who love the airline
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ZX357 wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:29 pm Some of us actually love the airline and we acknowledge it's flaws.
This is the only place I can find out more information in a singe discussion about the airline and it is a public forum not only for bashing and spreading hate about it but to allow the very few us to take some pride in it.

Just sharing some lighter positive news for those who love the airline
Agree with this. Not every single little thing about SAA is bad. Yes, there are a multitude of teething problems, but there are still some positives. Looking at everything with a solely pessimistic/fatalistic view isn't productive either.
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You will find that most here, including me, loved the once proud airline, and that is why you see so much bitterness.

I was an airline that was magnificent, but alas, no more, and will never be again. :( I can't find any good in what is now called SAA, sorry.

Those that caused her downfall, think they are doing a stellar job, and are oblivious to their shortcomings, and that won't change.

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