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GLF4 wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:18 pm
twr1 wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:55 pm What happned to TAAG stating Durban, was supposed to have started last month?
Probably no demand, KZN isn't a tourist destination anymore...

Tell that to KZN hotels which remain the best performing in the country this year by far for occupancy. Don't fall for simple media one liners.

As for TAAG, their own business is a mess. They delayed this start to march over a month ago
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After almost three years there is finally a direct flight between Johannesburg and Beijing, 欢迎来到约翰内斯堡!
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Looks like CemAir will launch CPT-KIM from middle February, 4 weekly with CRJ100.

Route map also shows "coming soon" JNB-ELS, CPT-ELS, DUR-GRJ
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grjplanes wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:20 pm Looks like CemAir will launch CPT-KIM from middle February, 4 weekly with CRJ100.

Route map also shows "coming soon" JNB-ELS, CPT-ELS, DUR-GRJ
Their :coming soon" has been there for quite a while.
Their jhb to Durban was reduced significantly last week and this week from 5/4 flights a day down to 2 a day. Saturday they didn't didn't fly that route .
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twr1 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:18 pm
grjplanes wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:20 pm Looks like CemAir will launch CPT-KIM from middle February, 4 weekly with CRJ100.

Route map also shows "coming soon" JNB-ELS, CPT-ELS, DUR-GRJ
Their :coming soon" has been there for quite a while.
Their jhb to Durban was reduced significantly last week and this week from 5/4 flights a day down to 2 a day. Saturday they didn't didn't fly that route .
Because they are not competitive on the golden triangle. In their tiny planes they better off serve the thin minimal travelled routes. So the Kimberley, George etc to main hubs.
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airbusa346 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:38 pm Air Algerie starts Johannesburg: https://simpleflying.com/air-algerie-ai ... annesburg/
Seems like a throwing money away exercise
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African Flyer wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:19 pm
airbusa346 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:38 pm Air Algerie starts Johannesburg: https://simpleflying.com/air-algerie-ai ... annesburg/
Seems like a throwing money away exercise
It is! There are something like 9000 seats per year of travelers between Algeria and South Africa. This was prior to a significant down scaling of South Africans working in Algeria post Covid. Additionally Algeria isn't pushing for tourists to visit its country. They don't want the risk of anything going wrong, and the negative press/impact on foreign Oil and Gas companies working in Algeria. I fly in and out of Algiers airport often, sometimes with Air Algerie. It's not suited for international transit at all. There isn't even a transit channel to avoid clearing customs/immigration, so I have no idea how that would work. The airport itself is not comfortable at all, there is no transit hotel and despite there being a very nice Hyatt a few hundred metres from the terminal building, without a visa (which takes weeks via the embassy), you won't be allowed to enter the country. The airline itself is pretty horrific. I've flown them both domestically as well as in and out of Europe. Tatty aircraft that are never cleaned properly, inefficient ground staff, massive delays, etc etc. The cabin crew and flight deck crew I will say are professional and friendly.

There were talks a number of years ago of the SA authorities dropping the tourist visa requirements for Algerians to visit SA. As far as I can see this hasn't happened. Algerian colleagues who have had to deal with the SA embassy in Algiers, have also complained at how long the visa processing times are.

I'm scratching my head on this one.
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African Flyer wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:19 pm
airbusa346 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:38 pm Air Algerie starts Johannesburg: https://simpleflying.com/air-algerie-ai ... annesburg/
Seems like a throwing money away exercise
TBH I am quite surprised myself with them launching flights to Johannesburg.
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It's been mentioned in a few articles that there have never been direct flights between Algeria and SA. Incorrect. In the early 2000's Khalifa Airways flew between Algiers and Johannesburg for a while before the whole Khalifa holding company went bankrupt.
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Burner wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 6:32 pm
African Flyer wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:19 pm
airbusa346 wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:38 pm Air Algerie starts Johannesburg: https://simpleflying.com/air-algerie-ai ... annesburg/
Seems like a throwing money away exercise
It is! There are something like 9000 seats per year of travelers between Algeria and South Africa. This was prior to a significant down scaling of South Africans working in Algeria post Covid. Additionally Algeria isn't pushing for tourists to visit its country. They don't want the risk of anything going wrong, and the negative press/impact on foreign Oil and Gas companies working in Algeria. I fly in and out of Algiers airport often, sometimes with Air Algerie. It's not suited for international transit at all. There isn't even a transit channel to avoid clearing customs/immigration, so I have no idea how that would work. The airport itself is not comfortable at all, there is no transit hotel and despite there being a very nice Hyatt a few hundred metres from the terminal building, without a visa (which takes weeks via the embassy), you won't be allowed to enter the country. The airline itself is pretty horrific. I've flown them both domestically as well as in and out of Europe. Tatty aircraft that are never cleaned properly, inefficient ground staff, massive delays, etc etc. The cabin crew and flight deck crew I will say are professional and friendly.

There were talks a number of years ago of the SA authorities dropping the tourist visa requirements for Algerians to visit SA. As far as I can see this hasn't happened. Algerian colleagues who have had to deal with the SA embassy in Algiers, have also complained at how long the visa processing times are.

I'm scratching my head on this one.
Thank you for confirming the reality there. I'm honestly not one bit surprised that excluding crew, everything's rubbish
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Cathay Pacific will restart flights in August to FAOR: https://m.engineeringnews.co.za/article ... ep_id:4433
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I see on cemairs Instagram page they announced jhb to maun from 1 may .
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The A350 is coming back. SAA to restart EDDF, EGLL, YPPH, KJFK, KIAD, and SBGR. https://simpleflying.com/south-african- ... er_popup=1
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The tooth fairy is real.

I’ve also made a statement, doesn’t mean it’s true. They’ve said many things many times before, as I’ve said I’ll believe it when the aircraft is parked in JNB on the ramp.

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