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Soooo.... what he complains about has got no footing??

- What about the check-in agent?? Was that professional service he received??
- What about the Bidvest Lounge reception agent?? Was that professional service??
- What about the obvioulsy dirty airplane interior?? Was that proffesional service??
- What about the air hostersses gathering in the back galley for the rest of the flight?? Was that proffesional service?? (Not talking from a door safety point, however you never know when some idiot tries to open a door, and that does happen)

I think South Africa has become so accustomed to unproffesional service from banks to supermarkets to really anything that when they see something so wrong they dont even bother anymore.

All that is done is moan and b*tch about what someone is pointing out as bloody obvious!

He is one of the better aviation youtubers, him and Noel Phillips, maybe watch some more of his videos, and yes obviously the youtube headings are going to be clickbait, just like anything else, at leat he pays his way himself unlike another very famous youtuber which are sponsored by the airlines.
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northerndbn wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:02 am
GLF4 wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:47 am
Volo wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:39 pm
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I disagree . I think South Africa's judicial system is extremely convoluted .
You only have to try and follow some of the politico / corruption trials going on to see what I would call a miscarriage of justice - Jacob for one just continues to manipulate the courts at will .
No sorry - the legal profession leaves me reaching for a paper bag.
Agree largely in part here, it seems it comes down to money and who you know. Just because it's a law, doesn't mean it's justice...
Well then you clearly don't follow the world news. This is entirely how justice works in the US, UK etc. Ours actually is more independent and functioning than those two often are these days. So be careful what you wish for
The only people who win are the lawyers, 'law' has become about money sadly, and not just in RSA either.
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GLF4 wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:12 pm
northerndbn wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:02 am
GLF4 wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 10:47 am

Agree largely in part here, it seems it comes down to money and who you know. Just because it's a law, doesn't mean it's justice...
Well then you clearly don't follow the world news. This is entirely how justice works in the US, UK etc. Ours actually is more independent and functioning than those two often are these days. So be careful what you wish for
The only people who win are the lawyers, 'law' has become about money sadly, and not just in RSA either.
100%, and as you say its not just an SA thing. I had a messy court case with an estate agent (Seeff George) who with held some critical info on a property I signed an offer on. The seller was actually also at fault, but they had no cash so instead of pursuing them the estate agent came after me for the deposit. Fortunately I had the means to take them on. After a lengthy and expensive court case I won. They then decided to double down and appeal to the high court in Cape Town. Things got frighteningly expensive, and again I won the court case with "costs". "Costs" unfortunately don't cover everything, and I was awared R130k after spending well over R160k. They then had the cheek to offer R100k, which I laughed at and said let's keep going, I want R130k. I got the R130k, then took out a full page advert in the local newspaper recounting the entire story, quoting only what the magistrate and high court ruled. I reported them to the estate agents commission, and also to Seeff HQ.

So yes definitely access to cash or free legal assistance does often make the difference between winning and losing.
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Volo wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:39 pm
Burner wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 5:36 pm South Africa actually has a very robust, largely independent judiciary. The wheel does turn, albeit slowly, when it comes to court cases. I'd be interested to know on what grounds Link lost this case, and if it wasn't down to a technicality during the business rescue process.
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I disagree . I think South Africa's judicial system is extremely convoluted .
You only have to try and follow some of the politico / corruption trials going on to see what I would call a miscarriage of justice - Jacob for one just continues to manipulate the courts at will .
No sorry - the legal profession leaves me reaching for a paper bag.
I think people are conflating two issues here. Burner is arguing that the judiciary is largely independent, in that the decisions and orders of the court are largely independent from politics. I think that is correct by seeing how many decisions force action on government on political decisions. That argument is not suggesting that decisions on prosecutions are not selective and highly influenced by politics or that the system is incredibly slow and open to dramatic delaying tactics if one has the money and resources to keep is going for a long time. However, ultimately that the final decisions, if and when they get made, are independent and credible. If this were not the case, it would be highly unlikely that Zuma would ever have lost a case, yet I don't see a significant win for him in his corruption cases other than delays. He's currently hiding in Russia since he probably fears he's run out of delays ...
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Zuma is back in SA and already appealling his last loss against Billy Downer and a journalist. #-o

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JustFlying wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:05 pm
Richard007 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:40 am Airlink has a busy month in front of the Competition Commission. This could be a big number too.
Looks like it’s the same matter with multiple dates and as per line item one, has been dismissed.

https://www.comptrib.co.za/open-file?FileId=53353
Cemair vs Airlink
No this is not correct. This is the Competition Commission taking Airlink to the Tribunal after finding in favour of complaints from 2016 by Fly Blue Crane and 2 others. The complaints relate to excessive pricing and anti-competitive behaviour.

CemAir was called by the Competition Commission as a witness.

The matter has not been dismissed and is currently being heard.
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HJK 414 wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:35 pm
Joker11 wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:52 pm
I watched a few of his videos. He comes off as very unlikeable. Pretty much always finding something to complain about.

His reviews on Qatar were bought by the airline.

Joker,

It is his earning model to "find" stuff to complain about.
A video of how nice and efficient everything is going - is bad clickbait.
And the attitude is part of the play ...

Modern times - social media ..... ](*,)

JK
My experience of Airlink personnel is that they can be arrogant, sly and dishonest but Cahill's gripes seem easily remedied and just maybe Airlink will take them "onboard".
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Wow Mouser, if someone said that about the people in my company, I would surely want to investigate. :shock:

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As a family, we fly Airlink 7-8 times a year (For the last 3 years) and we are still to have a bad experience.

I am not saying it doesn't happen, just saying I still have to experience it!
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marius scheepers wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:10 am Soooo.... what he complains about has got no footing??

- What about the check-in agent?? Was that professional service he received??
- What about the Bidvest Lounge reception agent?? Was that professional service??
- What about the obvioulsy dirty airplane interior?? Was that proffesional service??
- What about the air hostersses gathering in the back galley for the rest of the flight?? Was that proffesional service?? (Not talking from a door safety point, however you never know when some idiot tries to open a door, and that does happen)

I think South Africa has become so accustomed to unproffesional service from banks to supermarkets to really anything that when they see something so wrong they dont even bother anymore.

All that is done is moan and b*tch about what someone is pointing out as bloody obvious!

He is one of the better aviation youtubers, him and Noel Phillips, maybe watch some more of his videos, and yes obviously the youtube headings are going to be clickbait, just like anything else, at leat he pays his way himself unlike another very famous youtuber which are sponsored by the airlines.
Having been fortunate enough to travel through 14 countries last year (including spending time in France and the USA), my experience was that, in terms of general service (wait-staff, airport, airlines, accommodation), South Africa was ahead of the game.
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CEO Interview: Rodger Foster
Victoria Moores August 29, 2023


South African regional carrier Airlink has been through a storm and has come out thriving. In late 2019, Airlink’s longstanding franchise partnership with South African Airways (SAA) came to an abrupt halt; then COVID struck. Despite three-and-a-half years of hardship, Airlink has rapidly expanded to become a South African market leader, operating more than double the capacity of SAA.
https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/ ... ger-foster
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Whirly wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 8:09 am Wow Mouser, if someone said that about the people in my company, I would surely want to investigate. :shock:

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My gripe is a slightly older one related to Airlink arbitrarily applying their own rules to covid vaccination requirements necessitating delay, losing a flight and having to book another ticket. More recently, a similar situation around passport validity with Airlink personnel verbally saying a passport could be used BUT more careful checking indicates that it can't. Risk is buy a ticket, pitch at the airport, get refused by emigration and have be delayed and buy another ticket. Only Airlink scores. Minimal trust in them.
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Joker11 wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:52 pm
African Flyer wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 1:51 pm
I watched a few of his videos. He comes off as very unlikeable. Pretty much always finding something to complain about.

His reviews on Qatar were bought by the airline.
This review of Qatar?

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Whatever happened to just enjoying the opportunity to be able to fly?
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