Drones should be MORE regulated !

Unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), commonly known as a drone and also referred to as an unpiloted aerial vehicle and a remotely piloted aircraft (RPA) by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), is an aircraft without a human pilot aboard.

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Regulations require enforcement. Given the broad applications of drones, it will need an approach in which government departments coordinate their responses. In South Africa, the Commercial Unmanned Aircraft Association of Southern Africa is drawing up proposals with the Department for Economic Development for a registration and accreditation process that protects the public but doesn’t harm business.
https://issafrica.org/iss-today/weaponi ... ach-africa

Yup .. MORE regulation and legislation - for thee but not for us ( the already entrenched big operators )

Let us suck up to the current ANC government - some more ( Minister Ebrahim Patel ( communist ) current head of Department for Economic Development
Mr Ebrahim Patel is appointed Minister of Trade and Industry on 30 May 2019.

Mr Ebrahim Patel was the Minister of Economic Development of the Republic of South Africa; a position he has held since 11 May 2009, and to which he was re-appointed on 26 May 2014 until 25 May 2019.
https://www.gov.za/about-government/con ... m-patel-mr

Appears the same approach to "drones" as to firearms

The mind boggles
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Errr.. aren't drones ESPECIALLY in SA already stupidly over regulated... #-o as if the industry is not already
useless enough in SA because of absurd and sensless over regulation. #-o #-o

Or is someone missing out on the monopoly and wants to piggyback off of the existing circle of corrupted dictators ?

Whats next
Will you be needing rpas roc rcocca sacccars,toc to operate a dumbed down beta version of a drone simulator ?

Or will they require you to be physically handicapped to operate one which you might as well be ?
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Go ask the government to fix it…because that always turns out well 😂


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NineThreeKilo wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 3:11 am Go ask the government to fix it…because that always turns out well 😂
#-o #-o
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KZNChris wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 1:49 pm
Regulations require enforcement. Given the broad applications of drones, it will need an approach in which government departments coordinate their responses. In South Africa, the Commercial Unmanned Aircraft Association of Southern Africa is drawing up proposals with the Department for Economic Development for a registration and accreditation process that protects the public but doesn’t harm business.
https://issafrica.org/iss-today/weaponi ... ach-africa

Yup .. MORE regulation and legislation - for thee but not for us ( the already entrenched big operators )

Let us suck up to the current ANC government - some more ( Minister Ebrahim Patel ( communist ) current head of Department for Economic Development
Mr Ebrahim Patel is appointed Minister of Trade and Industry on 30 May 2019.

Mr Ebrahim Patel was the Minister of Economic Development of the Republic of South Africa; a position he has held since 11 May 2009, and to which he was re-appointed on 26 May 2014 until 25 May 2019.
https://www.gov.za/about-government/con ... m-patel-mr

Appears the same approach to "drones" as to firearms

The mind boggles
The mind cannot even boggle anymore ! #-o #-o
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viki wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:27 pm Errr.. aren't drones ESPECIALLY in SA already stupidly over regulated... #-o as if the industry is not already
useless enough in SA because of absurd and sensless over regulation. #-o #-o

Or is someone missing out on the monopoly and wants to piggyback off of the existing circle of corrupted dictators ?

Whats next
Will you be needing rpas roc rcocca sacccars,toc to operate a dumbed down beta version of a drone simulator ?

Or will they require you to be physically handicapped to operate one which you might as well be ?
The monopoly seems to be permanent, no one seems to care to do anything about it #-o #-o #-o
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Enforcement is now possible - SAPS have got the charge codes for those who step over the line in terms of the laws in place.

That said - just this past week we yet again had a hobby drone fly in an area where SACAA permission is required to fly - it also flew over private property without owner permission, not to mention a string of other charge codes. And within 10km of a airfield and less than 3km of a NKP.

And another new thing happening in our part of the woods is hobby drone night flying.BVLOS

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viki wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:27 pm Errr.. aren't drones ESPECIALLY in SA already stupidly over regulated... #-o as if the industry is not already
useless enough in SA because of absurd and sensless over regulation. #-o #-o

Or is someone missing out on the monopoly and wants to piggyback off of the existing circle of corrupted dictators ?

Whats next
Will you be needing rpas roc rcocca sacccars,toc to operate a dumbed down beta version of a drone simulator ?

Or will they require you to be physically handicapped to operate one which you might as well be ?
It really is that dumb i agree, our country's drone regulations is the laughing stock of the world, being controlled by an odd few for selfish gains and nobody challenging it is one for the Jokes section here on avcom.
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zander wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:40 am
viki wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:27 pm Errr.. aren't drones ESPECIALLY in SA already stupidly over regulated... #-o as if the industry is not already
useless enough in SA because of absurd and sensless over regulation. #-o #-o

Or is someone missing out on the monopoly and wants to piggyback off of the existing circle of corrupted dictators ?

Whats next
Will you be needing rpas roc rcocca sacccars,toc to operate a dumbed down beta version of a drone simulator ?

Or will they require you to be physically handicapped to operate one which you might as well be ?
It really is that dumb i agree, our country's drone regulations is the laughing stock of the world, being controlled by an odd few for selfish gains and nobody challenging it is one for the Jokes section here on avcom.
You say: “our country's drone regulations is the laughing stock of the world”. Give us some evidence of it? (BTW, should be “are”)
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jean wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 12:09 am
zander wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:40 am
viki wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:27 pm Errr.. aren't drones ESPECIALLY in SA already stupidly over regulated... #-o as if the industry is not already
useless enough in SA because of absurd and sensless over regulation. #-o #-o

Or is someone missing out on the monopoly and wants to piggyback off of the existing circle of corrupted dictators ?

Whats next
Will you be needing rpas roc rcocca sacccars,toc to operate a dumbed down beta version of a drone simulator ?

Or will they require you to be physically handicapped to operate one which you might as well be ?
It really is that dumb i agree, our country's drone regulations is the laughing stock of the world, being controlled by an odd few for selfish gains and nobody challenging it is one for the Jokes section here on avcom.
You say: “our country's drone regulations is the laughing stock of the world”. Give us some evidence of it? (BTW, should be “are”)
No sorry boet, could be "is" or "are" nothing wrong with either pronouncement ;)

Examples ? Haha good one... if you cant see the constipation all around you, YOU are just as lost as the 1000 + RPL pilots (and more in the making each and every month) that is / was duped into believing the prospects of becoming a full time drone pilot in south africa is reality , but unfortunately reality proved otherwise.

No need for evidence to know the basics you must have been hiding in a cave somewhere ?
Our very constipated regulation does NOT allow for the industry to advance whatsoever ! ! !

Now provide YOUR evidence to the contrary.
This is going to be fun ;)
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viki wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 1:23 pm
jean wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 12:09 am
zander wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:40 am
It really is that dumb i agree, our country's drone regulations is the laughing stock of the world, being controlled by an odd few for selfish gains and nobody challenging it is one for the Jokes section here on avcom.
You say: “our country's drone regulations is the laughing stock of the world”. Give us some evidence of it? (BTW, should be “are”)
No sorry boet, could be "is" or "are" nothing wrong with either pronouncement ;)

Examples ? Haha good one... if you cant see the constipation all around you, YOU are just as lost as the 1000 + RPL pilots (and more in the making each and every month) that is / was duped into believing the prospects of becoming a full time drone pilot in south africa is reality , but unfortunately reality proved otherwise.

No need for evidence to know the basics you must have been hiding in a cave somewhere ?
Our very constipated regulation does NOT allow for the industry to advance whatsoever ! ! !

Now provide YOUR evidence to the contrary.
This is going to be fun ;)
No need for evidence as you say yourself mate!
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viki wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 1:23 pm
jean wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 12:09 am
zander wrote: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:40 am
It really is that dumb i agree, our country's drone regulations is the laughing stock of the world, being controlled by an odd few for selfish gains and nobody challenging it is one for the Jokes section here on avcom.
You say: “our country's drone regulations is the laughing stock of the world”. Give us some evidence of it? (BTW, should be “are”)
No sorry boet, could be "is" or "are" nothing wrong with either pronouncement ;)

Examples ? Haha good one... if you cant see the constipation all around you, YOU are just as lost as the 1000 + RPL pilots (and more in the making each and every month) that is / was duped into believing the prospects of becoming a full time drone pilot in south africa is reality , but unfortunately reality proved otherwise.

No need for evidence to know the basics you must have been hiding in a cave somewhere ?
Our very constipated regulation does NOT allow for the industry to advance whatsoever ! ! !

Now provide YOUR evidence to the contrary.
This is going to be fun ;)
No need for evidence as you say yourself mate! Go on shooting yourself in the foot…
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Unfortunately we all have been shot in the foot whether we keep quiet or not i realized this years ago, might as well be noisy about it, only the few big players that planned the monopoly well in advance will continue to roll in the dough, just to think we could have been a leader in the world providing drone deliveries by now. Austrailia the US and Ireland is at the forefront of this exciting field.
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viki wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:28 pm Unfortunately we all have been shot in the foot whether we keep quiet or not i realized this years ago, might as well be noisy about it, only the few big players that planned the monopoly well in advance will continue to roll in the dough, just to think we could have been a leader in the world providing drone deliveries by now. Austrailia the US and Ireland is at the forefront of this exciting field.
Ah, lovely examples. Amazon in the USA requires a full Part 135 operation to run their drones. And until recently, the required a minimum Part 61 license for pilots too. Australia's rules are pretty much the same as ours. Ireland is far stricter.
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heisan wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:58 pm
viki wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:28 pm Unfortunately we all have been shot in the foot whether we keep quiet or not i realized this years ago, might as well be noisy about it, only the few big players that planned the monopoly well in advance will continue to roll in the dough, just to think we could have been a leader in the world providing drone deliveries by now. Austrailia the US and Ireland is at the forefront of this exciting field.
Ah, lovely examples. Amazon in the USA requires a full Part 135 operation to run their drones. And until recently, the required a minimum Part 61 license for pilots too. Australia's rules are pretty much the same as ours. Ireland is far stricter.
Here's some lovely examples indeed :

https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/10/0 ... -of-the-us

https://www.manna.aero

https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2022/1 ... sk-dublin/

"Drone deliveries have finally become a reality in parts of the United States, and for some users, they arrive in less than 15 minutes.

Several drone delivery services including Amazon, Alphabet-owned Wing and Israeli start-up Flytrex have started operating in the country after receiving a green light from the Federal Aviation Administration."

"Tiffany Bokhari lives in Frisco, Texas. She first tested Wing's drone delivery app out of curiosity, and she did it again when she needed a band-aid.

It's now the third time a drone brings her the light goods she ordered from her smartphone – in this case, snacks and that cold soda."

"I think it's better to be delivered by drone versus car because it's helpful for the environment, you know. It saves gas, and money, and saves the environment," she said.

As for Australia
Drone delivery has become increasingly integrated into the lives of Australians over the last several years. Wing completed more than 100,000 drone deliveries in Australia last year, and has already surpassed 30,000 in just the first two months of 2022.01 Mar 2022.

The international stage is making us look like toddlers trying to play in a sandpit !

In reality we have too much red tape, too much over regulation and a few odd individuals keeping it this way as it suits their pockets and lack of inspiration for the industry.

No matter how much "talk" there was since 2016 that regulations have changed, that the drone industry would expand and provide more job opportunities in SA, (and there has been a lot of talk) nothing ever comes to fruit, there has never been ANY progress to push the industry forward in South Africa.
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