Cheetha or Jabiru?

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Re: Cheetha or Jabiru?

Unread post by Hennie van Zyl » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:04 am

Ugly Duckling wrote:HKGK
Gearbox 400 hrs @ R12k = 4 ovehauls in 1600 hrs = R48k
Engine 1600 hrs @ R100k
Total 1600 hrs @ R148k = R92.50 per hour powerplant only [-X
Consider: the perfect Cheetah could very well be one with the 120hp Jab engine!
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Unread post by Stephan van Tonder » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:17 am

Hennie - my feeling has been exactly that hence my enquiries about getting one installed and paperwork sorted at CAA for it. I think it will make an awesome combo that Jabi 3300 and the cheetah airframe. Wish I had the bucks to buy either. Just think how nice that will sound mmmmm...

Thanks Steve onions. I have sent and enquiry to the factory twice already requesting prices before with not so much as an answer. I sent yet another one yesterday with the hope that they will actually answer me. Now that is the one thing that makes me already reluctant to do business with somebody. Remember he is just an agent where rainbow actually manufactures them here so if something goes wrong and you need parts then you will get sorted much sooner with the cheetah. I don't want to knock the skyranger and yes it's a copy of it but Rainbow has done some development and I thinkt their airplane is now better. The new wing is faster - The look inside is much nicer - the panel is better - the cowling certainly looks nicer oh - and did I mention local support :-)
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Unread post by crazeeflya » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:06 pm

Can only speak for Jabiru ownership, though looked at Cheetah before buying a couple of yrs ago - have both an sp and j430 (shares...before u think I'm one of the rockerfellers!) The Sp is certainly more fun around the patch than the 430, but for only slightly more than a 912 Cheetah, J430 is best bang for your buck aerie there is...super fast for the HP and more economical per 100km than the baby jab on x-country, comfort/space is great too. No fabric to deteriorate and it doesn't smell like theres mogas sloshing around the floor!
There are days I wish i could land on a postage stamp like the Cheetah though!
Horses for courses I s'pose
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Re: Cheetha or Jabiru?

Unread post by John Boucher » Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:22 pm

I am going to moer out my Rotax 582...

Recover my aerie with Trylam

Do the Ventral mod

and... and... and have Alexei & Vladimir fit a Jab3300

or

I am going to sell my Cheetah and buy me a Jab430!

Lets face it... they are all awesome aeries but really horses for different courses!
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Unread post by Hennie van Zyl » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:52 am

Bad Nav wrote:I am going to moer out my Rotax 582...

Recover my aerie with Trylam

Do the Ventral mod

and... and... and have Alexei & Vladimir fit a Jab3300

or

I am going to sell my Cheetah and buy me a Jab430!

Lets face it... they are all awesome aeries but really horses for different courses!
I've had my J430 now for 75 hours and being very critical, I can find one or two points on the Jabiru that
I may share a different opinion than other Jab drivers, BUT....... as far as the 3300 engine is concerned:
It is is simply outstanding and amazing. I would love to see a Cheetah with a 3300 Jab engine: This could
very well be the star of South African LSA! I've had Rotax aeries before: NO COMPARISON!

As Crazeefly said: Courses for horses: I prefer Jab J430 because of speed and economy. It is good for
long distances, BUT if you want to use short dirt runways and hop around the pond, the Cheetah is a good buy.
If I had a Cheetah, I would certainly consider the taildragger with a J3300!
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Re: Cheetha or Jabiru?

Unread post by John Boucher » Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:34 am

I think the Cheetah would be an awesome contender all round with the Jab 3300! And if they had to "copy" the Skyranger with a composite skin even better!

The 582 lacks the penetration in headwinds and the ample power would change this.
Short field capabilities would just improve....
Cruise speed would be where it should be!

I don't ask for more than 90 - 100mph purely because most of the places I wish to fly are in the radius of 90-120 miles.
I also don't want to fly there as fast as possible as I want to enjoy the flight as well and have the time to look around etc.

The Jab3300 has done wonders for the Bantam and I don't hear any complaints from them! This is really a proven and seriously reliable engine with an excellent TBO!
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Re: Cheetha or Jabiru?

Unread post by Whirly » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:41 pm

But I would be too afraid to ask what a Cheetha with the Jabi 3300 engine would cost?? :shock: 8-[ 8-[

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Re: Cheetha or Jabiru?

Unread post by Steve » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:54 pm

Getting back to the initial question, though.....

You simply can't get a better deal than the SP120 for R350k ready to fly - nothing on the market even comes close to compete price wise - The window of opportunity closes in 7 days time and a little birdy told me that the launch price will fall away and the price immediately climb to R400k

So if you are in the market in the short term - order one NOW !!!!!!
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Re: Cheetha or Jabiru?

Unread post by John Boucher » Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:12 pm

Not if you are a big oke..... rather small up front the 120 is! :(
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Re: Cheetha or Jabiru?

Unread post by Stephan van Tonder » Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:22 pm

Whirly - I already did a price calc wit a cheetah and jabi 3300. but basically R100k les tahn a 912S cheetah so +- 350-380k.
Even if the jab 120 cost R200k I won't buy it simply because I don't fit into it.

I honestly believe that a cheetah with jab 3300 will be a fnatastic airplane and if there was any way I could afford it that is where I would have gone.

Steve - I'm now waiting still on a reply on my thrid E-mail to the local skyranger agent(for a week again now) with yet so much as a reply of any kind. Not even an automated reply of yes we got your mail or anything. So quite frankly - If that is the kind of service they offer I certainly won't buy one.
Maybe you should point him here or ask him to at least reply on my e-mail. I hope the email address on his website is correct?.
Yes just checked - last e-mail sent on the 19th of march. Have re-sent it again today. Is this the right address ? 'clinton@electrodynamics.biz'
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Re: Cheetha or Jabiru?

Unread post by Steve » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:50 pm

It's not my business - I can only suggest that you perhaps contact him by phone: Clinton : 082 857 9405
The product is excellent :)
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Unread post by Stephan van Tonder » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:57 pm

Me allergic to telephones but he has replied on my today e-mail but not yet on a kit price. More to try and sell the already built one going in PE for R350k.
But will persevere with mail and see if I get a result. I hate phoned prices becuase there is no record. With e-mail you can always look at it again later and there is an actual record of what was said. Had too many suppliers turn around on me after telephonic quotes on stuff so I hate that.
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Unread post by Stephan van Tonder » Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:08 pm

skyranger panel vs cheetah panel make your own opinion.
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Re: Cheetha or Jabiru?

Unread post by TouchNgo » Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:25 pm

Hi guys,

bought a Skyranger from Clinton a while back.
Really happy, wonderful aerie!

Had one or two teething problems (CAA red tape), Clinton flew to Jhb from EL to sort it out.

Honestly can't complain about the service.

He likes to talk (so phone him) much more personal service than an arbitrary email quote request :D

His workmanship is second to none.

Not many offerings in this class carry BCRS certification.

Definitely worth a look :!:
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Re: Cheetha or Jabiru?

Unread post by John Boucher » Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:41 pm

So lets change the thread to "Cheetah or Skyranger?"

Maybe you guys should start a Skyranger Type discussion as well....
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