How much is A/C radio license (ICASA) for 2011?

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Re: How much is A/C radio license (ICASA) for 2011?

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So Friday is 1st and I have not rec'd renewal for the next 12 months. What does one do?
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the licence fees WILL NOT BE INCREASED this year and will remain at R48.00, due on 1st April and payable by 30th April
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Re: How much is A/C radio license (ICASA) for 2011?

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Fees to March 2012 R 48.

Apparently ICASA have been requiring you to fax (011 566 3902) or e-mail (specdev@icasa.org.za) proof of payment to them with licence number and aircraft reg. Then licence will be issued.

I've just done so for the R12 paid in Jan and the R48 paid today.

Carry last years licence and these proofs in plane.

Hold thumbs.

Thanks for the help Peter.
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Quick correction to last post: the email address to use for forwarding proof of payment is specrev@icasa.org.za Check the info at the top right hand corner of the renewal notice for other pertinent details.

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Just recieved a bill for a radio license

BALANCE BROUGHT FORWARD R584.00
AIRCRAFT STATION R48.00

Any ideas as to what that means ?

What happened to the Gazzetted price of R120.00 ?/
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As previously advised, the increase to R120.00 has been deferred until 1st April 2012. There were simply too many obstacles in the way of it's introduction this year so the licence fee remains at R48.00 for another 12 months until 31st March 2012. (By the way, that goes for all other licence fees as well, in case any of you should happen to have other types of licences.)

IRO your other query ref the amounts, I cannot comment unless you can provide either the aircraft registration (call sign) or the radio licence number. The figures mean squat on their own, except that the R48.00 is currently the licence fee for a full year.

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Any light on the subject will great as we are now waiting for the license to get our ATF.

We have made two trips in person to ICASA to sort this license out.

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Just a question can you use the same radio in two aircraft, if so what are the license requirements ??
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Re: How much is A/C radio license (ICASA) for 2011?

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Hi Wayne,

1st question - your licence is currently reflecting a credit of R38.00 after payment of the fees for the next 12 months up to 31st March 2012. Additionally, our database tells me the licence was printed on 31st March but I have no means of establishing when it was actually posted. HQ only post once per week and that is usually on a Tuesday after the relevant documents, i.e. invoices, licences, etc, were printed on the preceding Friday. However, our posting is done by a third-party organisation so it is not necessarily the case that post sent for mailing on Tuesday actually does get posted that same day. It may only go later in the week, or the following week, depending on circumstances. However, in your case it would seem that the licence has been sent off so expect it to arrive within the next week or so.

2nd question - Yes, the same radio may be used on different aircraft providing all the craft have the necessary radio licences and the various licences reflect the details of the radio used. E.g. 3 microlites ZU-ABC, ZU-ABD and ZU-ABE; 3 ICASA radio licences 1234567, 1234568 and 1234569; 1 radio, ICOM IC-A3 handheld, which must be indicated as the radio equipment on all 3 licences (Note: the serial number of the radio does not appear on the radio licence - only the model number is required). Whichever plane is in use, the respective radio callsign is to be used and, if required, the respective licence document must be produced. This obviously only applies to radio equipment on small aircraft as the installations on large planes would render it very difficult, if not impossible, to continually transfer the gear from one to another.

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Thanks Peter,

Sound like you must purchase 3 licences, surely the license is for the Radio not the aircraft.

If I have a Hand held radio that I use at airfield A and airfield B do I then have to have a licence for both airfields ?

I ask this question as I have 3 aircraft and can only fly one at a time and would like to use the same radio in all of them.

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Wayne,

The licence is in respect of the "aircraft installation" not the individual radio. What is issued is an "installation" licence and an installation may consist of 1 radio or 10 radios all for the same R48.00 licence fee (and provided they are all aeronautical radios). If the licence were issued per radio and you had 10 radios on your aircraft, the licence fee would be R480.00. So, yes, if you have 3 aircraft then you must have 3 radio licences but you only need to have 1 radio which can be used on all 3 aircraft. Also it doesn't matter how many airfields you use , you only need one licence for each aircraft, not one for each airfield as well.

As regards the handheld, there are two ways to approach licensing. One way is to licence it as a normal aircraft station on your plane but, instead of leaving it on board when you are not flying, you can take it home with you for safe-keeping to prevent theft or damage. The licence document as issued will reflect the type of aircraft, make and model of the radio, callsign of the aircraft and various other details iro postal address of owner, etc. The other way is to licence it as an "aeronautical mobile" in which case the licence will reflect only the make and model of the radio and the owner's name and address details, plus a couple of other bits and pieces. There will be no call sign allocated and obviously no type of aircraft, etc, as the intention of issuing this sort of licence is so that the radio can be used as an emergency back-up when a pilot is possibly delivering an aircraft which may have either no comms equipment fitted or very unfamiliar equipment. In this event, the callsign to be used would be the aircraft's registration letters as if using its own installation. Unfortunately this type of licence is only normally issued to pilots who are either involved in delivering aircraft, and therefore fly a variety of craft on a regular basis, or who have a valid reason for requiring a mobile licence, such as some type of ground control aspect. A considerable degree of motivation will need to be provided for such licence applications, bearing in mind that aeronautical equipment is for use between ground and air or between aircraft on the ground or in the air. It is not intended for use between mobile stations or mobiles and base stations on the ground, neither is it intended for use for purposes not directly connected with aeronautical matters. There are other frequency bands specifically assigned for that.

Hope that makes sense.

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